An Oklahoma man who was doing target practice in his backyard on Christmas is believed to have shot and killed an elderly woman a few blocks from his home, authorities said.
Cody Wayne Adams, 33, has been charged with first-degree manslaughter in connection with the deadly shooting, court filings show.
The victim was on a covered front porch with family members at a residence in Comanche when she was shot Thursday afternoon, according to the probable cause affidavit. She was holding a baby in her left arm while seated on a love seat when she was struck in her right upper arm, according to the affidavit. The bullet then entered her chest cavity, it said.
When a deputy said he suspected the shooting may have caused the victim’s death, Adams “became visibly upset and began to cry,” the affidavit stated. The deputy also told him that “while he was shooting towards the ground in his backyard that there was nothing behind his property to stop any bullets from traveling beyond his property and hurting someone,” the affidavit stated.
The state failed. This man should have not been allowed to own a handgun without proper training. I’d bet in this moment he had no idea bullets would bounce up. Just sad that some basic laws would solve this.
Just gonna politely point out that America is living under extreme corruption and tyranny right now, and the 2nd amendment aint doing shit to help with that problem. Sure gets lots of innocent citizens killed though.
Just like any expected conflict ever, the 2nd amendment caused an arms race - and the govt is far, far more heavily armed than the people.
System works as designed. The second amendment fuckwits never cared about freedom and democracy at all.
Except the freedom to have their murdertoys and power fantasies.
And here I am at 42 considering a pistol for the first time, to protect against other crazy citizens.
Statistically speaking, buying that handgun is going to dramatically increase your odds of dying by firearm.
Not sure who’s downvoting this but the claim is verifiable.
Here’s a John Hopkins report from 2023: https://publichealth.jhu.edu/center-for-gun-violence-solutions/data/annual-gun-violence-data
What I think is the most interesting, and a fact I learned taking a firearms safety course here in Canada, is that the highest risk remains suicide.
From the report: Gun suicides have accounted for the majority of all gun deaths each year since 1995.
Having a gun can turn that fleeting ideation into a permanent decision real quick.
Gun is probably the easiest cheapest way to access assisted suicide in the USA. That not-so-fleeting ideation probably drives a lot of people to the local Walmart to get a gun since its easier than getting a doctors appointment.
I personally think suicide is my right. Also when someone says that they want a gun to protect themselves… and someone states that it’s more likely to result in a gun death, but forgets to mention the suicide part… it’s disingenuous and that’s probably why the downvotes. Say the whole statistic. Maybe it really is a mental health crisis and not a gun problem. The biggest danger to a gun owner is themself. It gives you the power to end your life at your leisure which is really bad… because you haven’t created enough shareholder value or paid enough taxes yet. How can you consider buying a gun to end your life when it life itself is so fucking magical ya know?
Either way Smith and Wesson issues my insurance policy. This is America people.
Kind of feel like we’re talking past each other.
Suicide is your right. No qualms with that. I support thoughtful assisted dying and no one can stop you from taking your own life if you are determined to do so.
But the comment mentioning a dramatically increased probability of death by firearm isn’t disingenuous. They were answering someone talking about acquiring a firearm to protect themselves from others. I think it’s reasonable to remind anyone considering a firearm for self protection to understand they’re more likely to die by firearm as a result of that choice no matter how the death occurs. Even if suicide is the bulk of gun deaths it’s not the only cause - and so while being even more fully informed is helpful, I don’t agree that the warning is misleading in any way, I’d argue it remains just as factual.
It also doesn’t have to be either or: it can be both a mental health crisis and a gun crisis.
I’m also not unilaterally anti-firearm; I enjoy long distance marksmanship and hand loading precision cartridges quite a bit. That said, I understand the choices I’m making and the risks that come with them; taking every precaution I can to protect those around me from harm.
Totally agree with you, I mostly take quarrel with OP you were replying to. Yes owning a gun makes you much more likely to die in a gun incident. It opens to door to so many preventable tragedies in your own home. I just feel like that statistic demands the explanation that this includes people who bought a gun with the intention of suicide. It includes all the people who bought a gun with intention to resolve a conflict. It includes the biggest most negligent idiots you know, who will probably be shot by their children in a “tragic” accident. If you’re a law abiding, risk mitigating person scared of ICE showing up at your door… and you’d like a fire arm because that feels tyrannical, I’m gonna say you’re gonna be a wee bit better off than the statistic suggests.
IKYK, sounds like we have similar views on firearms in America. Bit of a quagmire innit. Hate watching it be discussed without nuance.
Buying a gun does make you more suicidal, as we can see the rise in suicides after buying a gun
I know, probably partly because if you intend to use it, you’re more likely to get shot instead, or shoot yourself.That’s why it’s only a consideration, but also, domestic tensions are…less than ideal.
But I have no kids, I’d take lessons and practice first, and I’d never leave ammo loaded. I do not want a gun in my home. I’m fine keeping them animated and fired with a gamepad.
And I’d like to think in the very unlikely situation I’d need it, I wouldn’t, like, engage, like an idiot.
Honestly if you do end up getting a firearm, you should keep it loaded. Once you do your safety training, you will be more confident. If you ever have children in your home, please take appropriate security precautions.
Really no reason to keep it loaded at all times in your home. You keep a magazine loaded with the firm arm and hopefully you never have to chamber a round. Once you do your safety training you will be more engaged with risk mitigation, precautions, and laws. Safety training is mostly how to not-shoot(yourself and others). Knowledge and practice will bring confidence and confidence is knowing that you don’t need a loaded gun hiding around the house. Most people are like kids and may accidentally shoot you with your loaded fire arm they found lying around.
The way I see it, if a loaded gun were sitting in my house, it’s more likely to go off by accident than ever actually needing it.
Yea apparently everyone has delusions of shooting a home intruder or something. Another accident waiting to happen. Chances are you’ll never need to use said gun, but if you do, it’s really easy to say " I have a gun and will use it" and load a gun. Give your imaginary burglar a chance to retreat.
That’s fair. In my defense my guns are never lying around. They all have manual safeties as well.
The common modern interpretation of the 2nd amendment being that gun sales and ownership must be almost completely unregulated is bullshit and not at all the way it was intended to be interpreted. It was supposed to protect the right of people to form and maintain local militias independent from the federal government, hence the “well-regulated militia” wording. The idea was that if local governments maintained their own militias consisting of private citizens it would create a collective military force capable of keeping the federal army in check. The modern emphasis on individual gun ownership with no organization has clearly not served this purpose.
Law enforcement investigating the shooting canvassed several residences to the north of the deadly shooting and found that all but one – Adams’ – had “suitable shooting backstops or firing locations,” according to the affidavit.
So… pretty much everyone in the area had a shooting range except the accused?
A “backstop” is not a shooting range…
It’s usually just a pile of dirt.
It’s wild for a bunch of people in a neighborhood to all be doing this, because even if the first couple are kind of safe about it, every idiot starts thinking jt’s safe to just shoot at a can or anything. All they know is they hear gunshots
Sounds like a terrible neighbourhood to live in, shots going off from everyone all the time
I’m picturing celebratory gunfire into the air every weekend.
My parents have a place to shoot in their yard. It’s a stack of old railroad ties four deep, two wide and ten tall with dirt piled up around the back. There is an empty field for over a mile behind that. I can’t imagine using it if anyone was any closer.
Under the right conditions, the NATO 5.56 x 45 mm can travel u to 3600 meters (4,000 yards). If one round, for some reason is shot above the berm, one mile is not enough. It does not take much to fuck up.
At least there is a berm, unlike the guy from the article.
This is Oklahoma.
Exactly. Why didn’t he have a shooting range too?
Apparently he did, just lacking the important part of a fucking backstop.
Backstop is not sufficient. You will miss it eventually. Should be a backstop and no one living behind it
Yeah, this happened literally 4 houses down from me. We all shoot guns, but we have targets, and those that dont go down to the bridge and fire into the creek bank. This whole thing is because he was lazy/stupid.
Just checking, you go to the stream and shot lead bullets it? That then infiltrates the watershed. So there’s a lead poisoning problem in your area?
Indeed, I would not drink their well water. It’s fucked.
This happens everywhere. The VFW in the next town over has a “turkey shoot” where they shoot bird shot over a river at a pavilion with targets on the side. All that bird shot just goes straight into the river. The VFW is in the center of town, so it’s not like it’s ever been a secret.
If only that baby were armed, it could have returned fire and everything would have been okay. More guns is the solution!
It’s insane to me how many people think that taking guns away will actually increase the violence… like the people that would normally shoot up a place would suddenly become experts at building bombs and take out WAY more people… when the reality is that those people would probably be more likely to blow themselves up trying to build a bomb… guns are so simple to kill with, a toddler could do it. Building a bomb or something equivalent is much harder than pulling a trigger.
If the polive was actually useful, then maybe getting rid of guns could be a good thing.
But as an Asian American. I know about the Korean Americans during LA Riots who had to protect their stores by themselves because the authorities didn’t give a shit.
Asian Diaspora are one of the most vulnerable groups. Because a lot of us have successful bussinesses and racists are jealous and like to target us.
So I’d prefer well regulated militias than police. Especially in the context of America where cops are horrible.
Especially since we have a model of what that society looks like, with places like Japan and great britain, most of Europe etc. They de-escalate to knife crime picking up the majority.
vehicle ramming attacks are constantly increasing. people who want to kill will find a way to kill with whatever tools they have available.
I’d choose you trying to run me down with a vehicle over shooting at me with an AR15 any day of the week.
Well I think most of the population would think guns. Judging by how we use firing squads for capital punishment and not Dodge Rams. You might be able to sell this idea to the prison/auto industries. Have you considered consulting or lobbying?
So what you’re saying is, that you believe a Dodge Ram is a more effective killing tool than a firing squad? I can’t tell if you’re being facetious or just plain didn’t read anything here.
Name and shame em
Yup, that’s why if you’re going to practice, do so on a range and always consider: what the hell is BEHIND/AROUND my target?
JFC for a nation as obsessed with firearms as the United States, the level of firearms safety knowledge is shockingly low.
People in my neck of the woods talk about fire arms the way I talk about video games or TV shows. They sound like recreation rather than self defense. I don’t know if knowledge is the only factor; a sense of seriousness about firearms seems to be lacking.
To be fair if guns were legal in my area I’d totally have one for fun. They look like a ton of fun. Probably best I’m not allowed one
Yep people shoot around where I live on their own 2 acre plot of land. Always know what’s behind your target “there are trees” and what’s behind those trees Joe?
There’s a house in an adjacent neighborhood that occasionally fires guns to a degree that it sounds like a gun battle is taking place. This story will make me wonder about their gun safety.
That’s exactly the point. Those of us that want gun control don’t want to rip them from the hands of responsible gun-owners.
We want common-sense laws that let us research and prevent gun violence. We want to keep guns out of the hands of those too young to understand them, criminals, abusers, stalkers, and the mentally-ill. We want people to have to understand how to safely operate them before purchasing guns, going hunting, or obtaining a concealed-carry permit. We want to limit gun crimes and school shootings.
But Republicans, the NRA, and gun lobbies oppose all of these popular positions most Americans agree on, even though it results in more gun deaths. There’s no compromising with fundamentalists…
You and I, my friend, are of a singular mind. I don’t oppose RESPONSIBLE gun ownership.
Responsibility, however, is a word missing from the MAGA/GOP/NRA vocabulary.
What was your latest purchase, if I may ask?
My latest… gun purchase? I bought a Remington 870 Express hunting shotgun maybe a decade ago. Non-firearm: I bought a matte black flatware set that was on sale for Black Friday that I really like!
Ah, that’s a solid shotgun and flatware set!
Gun rights, keeping people safe since… Never.
And keeping tyrants who abuse the constitution in check since… Also never.
There’s a bullet hole in the flashing under my second floor gutters, facing the street. Doesn’t look like it came from nearby, like it’s not slanted down toward the street or anything. No idea how long it’s been there, but I found it a few years ago when cleaning the gutters. Bullet might still be lodged in there.
It’s genuinely wild to me that people just fire this shit off willy-nilly.
It’s genuinely wild to me that Americans let just anyone have the capability to do that.
I agree, frankly. I am expert qualified (former military), and inherited firearms when my mom died. I don’t have any firearms currently, as I sold those off (very very old farm weapons; we were on a farmette) nor do I ever intend to get more. All that training, and I’m still not comfortable owning something that is designed specifically to kill something.
That is to say you can hypothetically do nothing, and still end up with firearms, which is a really big problem. Zero background check on inheritance…
We’re in desperate need of just education in the USA on many facets, including firearms. We don’t have safety courses for them and barely have anything for cars. Both are very dangerous is used improperly.
If you aren’t absolutely chicken shit it isn’t a problem. Idk I think u should have to get a licence to own a firearm, maybe if you can’t figure out bullet-go-far you can’t fucking own a gun
The guy from this post clearly wasn’t chicken-shit about guns.
Can you elaborate? He was the only property in that area WITHOUT a suitable backstop to fire at, and was firing off rounds by the handful from a newly acquired firearm out of excitement. Sounds about as fucking chicken shit as you can get with a firearm short of shooting randomly in a city centre, but what would I know haven’t killed anybody yet after years of shooting safely. Know where you are pointing the barrel, and know whatever is down range of it is liable to get killed. And yes, a house being behind where your shooting is a pretty basic consideration if you ask me but nobody knows gun safety anymore and instead choose ignorance. Not sure in what fantasy land you could say Adams from the article WASNT being chicken shit in, maybe if you read the article you will understand better what happened.
I think you have a different definition of chicken shit than most people, or I at least: “cowardly” or “very scared”.
Coworker of mine was shot through her apartment floor (accidental discharge). She almost died.
Maybe those people fell off of the apathy tree.
“I’m a responsible gun owner, i have owned guns since the dawn of light” - Proceeds to 360 no-scope the neighbor.
Well, no, the average gun owner in USA is not a responsible gun owner.
The average gun owner is responsible, it’s all these super owners who skew the stats. The average gun owner owns one pistol that’s locked away in a case or safe and only sees the light of day when it’s opened at the range.
Then there are super owners who skew the results and have a half dozen guns and shoot them off at their property with no bullet berm or any actual range safety practices. They keep their guns on their bedside table, by the door, etc, always loaded with the excuse that it would take too long to deal with safety practices if there is an intruder.
These are the people you hear about in the news. The more guns the less safe in my experience.
In the eyes of an American perhaps, sure, but if you come from a civilized place on the world, well simply no…and we still are allowed to own guns, its simply not handed out like candy.
The dumbfuck Adams is one of many reasons why the USA needs stricter gun control. I wonder if the worthless POS is a Charlie Kirk supporter.
There’s gotta be a name for the look where a physically unfit/poor performing American tries to offset this by donning physically “tough” fashion accessories and hair dos.
I know there’s gravy seals, but they kind of take it to the next level.
This, it’s more like a defence mechanism. Like they’d totally get their ass kicked in literally anything—fighting, jogging, getting up out of a chair—but they keep themselves safe by dressing up and casting tough stares.
People who open carry are embarrassing. They’re just advertising how scared they are.
We have a place literally designed for target practice, it’s called the “shooting range”. Ever heard of it ?
Even in very gun friendly areas ranges are always few, far between and often with years long wait lists for membership. Private property is often the only option, but it needs to be done safely. It sounds like every one of his neighbors had backstops for their home ranges, this dude was just a moron.
I’ve never heard of this issue. I know of at least 3 in my area that I could walk in, give them my id, fill out a small piece of paper and rent a gun and buy ammo to shoot there right there and then. I’ve even brought my Canadian in laws. They were able to shoot with just their passports. Rural ish PA btw
Much of the country it is a nightmare finding a place to shoot. I’m moving to Charleston SC at the end of the summer, I already reached out to the main range around there and they aren’t even accepting new people to the wait list. They’re hoping to maybe open the wait list back up in April or so.
When I lived in Northern Virginia someone finally built a very nice 100 yd indoor range and it was only a 45 minute drive from my apartment. Then the owner retired after 5-10 years and the town where it was located flat out told him “we will never approve the permits for you to ever sell it to another person. Sell it to us so we can make it a private police training facility or you will never see a penny.”
I’ve lived in many states, and it was almost always at least an hour to the nearest range. Right now I shoot on a private farm 10 minutes away and it’s beautiful.
Pretty sure this patriot was just trying to stop the baby skull biker gang from raping our churches and burning our children.
Dude was shooting without a backstop, fucking idiot…
Ban all lead bullets. Ban all semi-auto. Ban all pistols, revolvers, handguns. Nothing but black powder, or bolt action rifle.
Yes because those are less lethal. Under no pretense. We need proper education of firearm safety and usage like we need better education of car safesty and usage.
Prohibition never works
Yeah, but allowing people to have guns is killing hella people for no other reason than “I like guns”. Nobody is resisting anything or keeping anyone safe or stopping the bad guy. It’s just raining bullets and people who are okay with it use the Constitution to allow it to continue. (The Constitution, as it turns out, is fucking bullshit.)
1st degree means pre meditated.
Should be negligent homicide.
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1st degree doesn’t mean premeditated, it means to the highest degree. A murder charge typically implies premeditation whereas manslaughter implies recklessness.
1st degree manslaughter sounds right to me, killing someone accidentally through extreme recklessness in this case.
Ah thanks for clarifying
