A top FBI official toed the White House line about antifa as a major domestic terror threat at a House hearing on Thursday — but he struggled to answer questions about the leaderless movement.

Pressed repeatedly by a top Democrat on the House Homeland Security Committee about antifa’s size and location, the operations director of the FBI’s national security division didn’t have answers.

At one point, the FBI’s Michael Glasheen fumbled with his hands as he tried to find an answer for the question from Rep. Bennie Thompson, D-Miss.

“Well, the investigations are active,” Glasheen said.

Glasheen’s comments came three months after President Donald Trump proclaimed that antifa is a “major terror organization,” even though it the broad political movement does not have a hierarchy or leadership.

Trump followed his designation with a presidential memo on September 25 directing the FBI-led Joint Terrorism Task Forces to investigate and prosecute antifascists and other adherents of “anti-Americanism.”

The formless nature of the antifascist movement, however, appears to have flummoxed the FBI as it attempts to carry out Trump’s orders.

Glasheen called antifa “our primary concern right now” and called it “the most immediate, violent threat” from domestic terrorists. That led Thompson to ask him where antifa is located and how many members it has.

“We are building out the infrastructure right now,” Glasheen said.

“So what does that mean?” Thompson shot back. “I’m just — we’re trying to get the information. You said antifa is a terrorist organization. Tell us, as a committee, how did you come to that? Where do they exist? How many members do they have in the United States as of right now?”

“Well, that’s very fluid,” Glasheen said. “It’s ongoing for us to understand that. The same, no different than Al Qaeda or ISIS.”

Glasheen visibly struggled to answer the question before saying that the FBI’s investigations were “active.”

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    The really nice thing about Antifa is if anyone mentions Antifa as a group of people at a thing causing trouble, I instantly know that person is a drooling, fucking idiot.

    Antifa is the new pizzagate.

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      Oh no! It’s worse than that.

      “Antifa” is the new “Witchcraft”. It’s a way to arrest people for terrorism who aren’t terrorists.

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      The conservative media reaction to J6 was to proclaim everyone involved as Antifa. It’s just reflexive for the party organs at this point.

      If you’re opposed, you’re a terrorist.

      If you’re not enthusiastic, you’re a terrorist.

      If you’re embarrassing, you’re a terrorist

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    One simple question should be asked: “What does Antifa stand for?”

    Followed by “What is the definition of fascism?”

    Followed by “So you’re saying the current administration is fascist then? Please elaborate on why “A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, a capitalist economy subject to stringent governmental controls, violent suppression of the opposition, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism” isn’t a turrorist organization again?”

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    Anti-Facism is the greatest threat facing Trump’s America… and please don’t read any further in that.

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    You said antifa is a terrorist organization. Tell us, as a committee, how did you come to that? Where do they exist? How many members do they have in the United States as of right now?”

    You fool, that’s exactly why they’re so dangerous! They can be everywhere and nowhere all at once. Everybody and nobody at the same time. That’s why it’s safest to just assume everyone who disagrees with the president is Antifa and then ask questions once you have people in custody.

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    Did they do the math on that sentence?

    Anti-fascists and other anti-americans.

    Anti-fascist = Anti-american

    Divide both sides by anti.

    Fascist = American

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      It’s a tiny bit more subtle. “and other” gives us a subset relation:

      Anti-fascists ⊂ Anti-americans

      And then applying a negation flips it to

      Fascists ⊃ Americans

      And I’m hoping this still qualifies as reductio ad absurdum.

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    I like when people show pictures of their parents and grandparents in their antifa uniforms.

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    I wonder when Trump will learn that his claim to power comes from one of the most famous antifascist documents in the world: The Constitution of the United States.

    Edit: If anyone ever needs incontrovertible evidence that Trump is anti-American, I think his position on this qualifies.

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    The headquarters for Antifa is in the attic above the Baskin-Robbins. That’s why there are “31 flavors”. When you go in, order the “Unicorn Special” and they will let you in the secret passage door. Follow the sprinkles and push on the door with the pink spoon on it. Everyone is initiated for the first time with an ice cream disco party.

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    Holy shit, this is getting wilder and wilder. What’s next on the dystopian agenda? Burning all books considered as “woke”? Having everybody not voting for Trump wear some kind of marker? Censoring anything having another ideology and imprison (or worse) anybody trying to spread that information? Declaring prescription drugs as weapons of mass destruction? Oh, wait.