• ilinamorato@lemmy.world
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    “They should come here legally!”

    “They’re trying.”

    “Wait what they are? Well we’d better stop that then!”

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      No, they don’t want any immigration, except from white South Africa apparently.

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        That’s the messaging, sure. But I think maybe they do want more illegal immigration since that’s one of their winning issues. And it’s a useful excuse to build a secret police force whose ultimate purpose will be to go after dissidents.

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          I don’t think they generally think that deeply. I think they really do want less illegal immigration (and less legal immigration, and the expulsion of all non-white, non-fundamentalist-Christian people) because that will create the “unified, blessed” nation they believe that they need to have.

          That said, they aren’t concerned about dealing with either of those issues rationally or efficiently. It’s moral, not policy. “Impure” people who enter our “pure” nation are evil and must be thown out so we continue to have the favour of our deity (I refuse to write capital-g god here out of respsect for actual, loving Christian doctrine, as rare as it is). You deal with moral violations with exile and shame, not with compassion, wisdom, and welcoming.

          Trump doesn’t even get that deep. “How does this play in the ratings? (and secondarily, how do I look?)” That’s it. It’s why he likes Mamdani in person—he gets ratings.

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    because some guy decided to do something illegal and unconscionable—shooting other people

    Can we please stop this narrative that shooting an occupying army is bad?

    The murders by the military in the Caribbean are war crimes or Crimes against humanity, because they murdered civilians.

    But when someone shoots an armed military member, that’s a valid target.

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    “We will stop illegal immigrants.”
    “These aren’t illegal, they came here correctly through the proper channels.”
    “We will stop these loopholes and deem everyone we don’t like as illegal immigrants”
    “But that is unconstitutio…”
    “ARREST HIM. HE’S AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT!”

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    Might as well get it overwith. Now, let’s call all the people who said he’s only against ILLEGAL immigration

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    How do capitalists like that Donny is stopping them from hiring workers from outside the US? This won’t past long as long as we have capitalism that doesn’t solve for why we have immigrants in the first place. Sounds like we have all the incentive to keep immigrants from wanting to move here in the first place. Any other solution is a band aid, if ending emmigration to the US is desirable goal, which I doubt.