damn, good efficiency for them considering they’re about a billion times richer than me
my gasses per dollar are way higher! the problem is obviously with people like me
Well, you’re probably spending somewhat over two dollars per day on your survival, so unless they’re ALL blowing through half-a-billion dollars every year, their pollution-per-dollar is also greater than your’s
1% and .1% are also drastically different.
A quick search told me the “poorest person” in the top 1% in the U.S. would have a net worth around 13.7 million.
Why? Don’t they use cardboard straws for their frappes?
There are about 3000 billionaires. So their emissions account for 3 billion average persons. Its like the population of earth is 11 billion ppl instead of 8.
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This is why all the articles telling me to use paper straws feel like nothing but propaganda to me now. Stop telling me and the other poor people this shit is on us. All the recycling, cleanup and conservation i do in my life will be undone in one day by a billionaire. You want to lower emissions, start making heads roll
And that was 2022 guys. Feels like different era.
The thing is, even if it’s true that the average billionaire uses 1,000,000x as much energy as the average person, there are so few billionaires that most of the world’s CO2 is still emitted by the other 8.2 billion.
We definitely should make it so there are no billionaires. Tax them out of existence, and if that doesn’t work, axe them out of existence.
Having said that, we also need to take responsibility for our own wasteful lives. Just look at how inefficient cars are. In North America it’s perfectly normal to jump into a vehicle and haul around multiple tons of steel just to go get coffee. Another major source of CO2 is electricity and heat. Thankfully solar cells are getting so cheap that within a few decades (if the oil lobby can be defeated) most electricity will probably be solar. But, should we really be living in places where the heat needs to be turned on for 6 months of the year?
Canada is bringing in hundreds of thousands of immigrants per year, and the total population is growing at something like 1 million more people per year. Each one of those people becomes one of the most energy-using people on the planet, partially because the North American lifestyle is wasteful, partially because Canada is insanely cold half the year and requires massive energy for heating. Every new Canadian, whether a birth or an immigrant makes the world’s CO2 footprint much bigger. Maybe Canada should start shrinking and not growing, and the population should move to places where such a massively energy intensive lifestyle is not necessary.
Articles like this always seem like they’re people looking for a way to shift the blame to someone else. This time it’s the billionaires. Other times it has been corporations. People never take responsibility for their own lives.
there are about 3000 billionaires, if they generate a million people’s world of CO2 each, that’s the pollution of 3 billion people!!! about half the world population.
even ignoring their lobbying, just snapping them away Thanos style would mean more co2 saving than eliminating any single industry.
Mary Antoinette them is likely not the solution, better to regulate them and tax them out of existence. or Antoinette then if they keep fighting to kill us all.
if they generate a million people’s world of CO2 each, that’s the pollution of 3 billion people!!!
Which is why I doubt that that’s true. For it to be true, you’d probably have to do some kind of calculation like “if this privately owned company is owned by a billionaire, then assign all CO2 emissions from its entire operations to that one individual”. So, if you eliminated them, you actually wouldn’t eliminate those CO2 emissions. Someone would take over that business and it would continue putting out CO2 as long as someone was buying its products and/or services.
It’s likely that the “million times more than the average person” includes the CO2 emissions from their stocks. still, making them scared is the easiest way to stop them from burning the planet where I live.
But you’re not going to make them scared by publishing made up news stories like this. What will make them scared is politicians who they haven’t bought being in power.
We’re getting there. one Mamdani/Kat at a time.
I just wish it wasn’t 2 steps forward, 1 step back. Lina Khan and Jonathan Kanter were really scaring the billionaires, but not only did they lose their jobs when Trump won, it seemed likely that Harris was going to ditch them if she won too.
the status quo will fight any change tooth and nail. not going to be easy
The science is available for you to double check the math and methods. Go do that and show us your findings if you dispute the results instead of baselessly assuming it isn’t true because it doesn’t fit your preconceived assumptions.
Without billionaires the oil lobby wouldn’t exist
A lot of the “oil lobby” is suburban dwellers who rely on their cars for everything and oppose anything transportation-related that isn’t a subsidy for cars and roads.
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Then let’s pressurize them and sequester them in a cave under the New Mexico scrubland.
I don’t like the methodology of the study (done by Oxfam if you want to look it up). It attributes emissions to a person when it is done by a company they’re invested in. From the press release:
Billionaires’ lifestyle emissions dwarf those of ordinary people, but the emissions from their investments are dramatically higher still —the average investment emissions of 50 of the world’s richest billionaires are around 340 times their emissions from private jets and superyachts combined. Through these investments, billionaires have huge influence over some of the world’s biggest corporations and are driving us over the edge of climate disaster.
Nearly 40 percent of billionaire investments analyzed in Oxfam’s research are in highly polluting industries: oil, mining, shipping and cement. On average, a billionaire’s investment portfolio is almost twice as polluting as an investment in the S&P 500. However, if their investments were in a low-carbon-intensity investment fund, their investment emissions would be 13 times lower.
I’m of the opinion that we should look at people’s consumption behavior rather than their production behavior. When Exxon Mobil or Delta Airlines pollute, they’re doing it for their customers. Reducing the consumption from the customer point of view does reduce the overall emissions, so I’m gonna continue to reduce my own contributions to this crisis.
