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      At work I’ve had issues with the Start Bar not showing any/most programs and centering the one program that does show up (even though I have it left aligned). Then when I mouse over it, it’ll try to move to where it should be causing it to jump around and be unclickable.

      I’ve also had the file explorer just stop working entirely.

      This is on a pretty powerful dev laptop, so it’s not lack of resources.

      That being said I’ve never heard of anyone else having that issue so it seems rare.

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    This is why I have always waited for the version that is just like the previous ones, but fixed. 3.11, 98SE, XP SP2, 7, 10…

    I need to get a new computer, and it has to have windows, but I’m not getting freaking Win11. Gimme Win12.

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      Hate to break it to you but those days are over.
      From what we know so far, Win 12 will go all in on AI, cloud and a subscription model.

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        That system fell apart when they showed they could not count to 9. 10 Should have been 9, and it was mid at best.

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        My prediction is that they’ll go full SaaS and make the non-pro version “free”, with a whole raft of features “cloud only” behind a Azure/O365 subscription.

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    They could resolve many things if they did not push AI so hard, or making stupid things like removing the local account option, windows recall, etc…, but i guess SHAREHOLDERS.

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      We aren’t the consumer anymore. We are the product. The vessel which makes them money by collecting, storing, and selling our data. They don’t care about making a good OS for their users anymore. Just a money train to prove their value to their shareholders.

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    All user logons to a non-persistent OS installation such as a virtual desktop infrastructure (VDI) or equivalent as application packages must be installed each logon in such scenarios.

    Cries in supporting multi-user AVD Hosts

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    Really hoping Microsoft fails for everything ezcept Xbox. Then Xbox team takes over and then turns the company into a private non-stock unionized one

    Would love to see what an Xbox-lead Microsoft can do with it reformed

    What are Microsofts most moneymaking fields aboce Xbox? Are they getting eroded at all?

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      Xbox feels like the biggest one being eroded rn… i don’t think what Xbox is doing is any good nor would it help the main business

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      Xbox OG was good, everything since then has been garbage. The UI just makes me want to vomit and reminds me of windows 8.

      Forget them too. I’m all full steam ahead on SteamOS.

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      Azure is the cloud backbone of many businesses and services, so if Windows went away, MS would still have their fingers in a number of pies.

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      Well, it does boot most of the time. So it’s not completely broken, just majorly broken…

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        Last month they broke audio drivers, so USB connected speakers were not being recognised unless they had third-party drivers. The native windows drivers just stopped recognising them as audio devices, and just listed them as Unknown Device.

        Windows could see them, it had no idea what they were, or what to do with them. So you had no audio.

        The only solution was to continuously restart until eventually it randomly worked.

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      “We’ll slap some ‘AI’ on any a few things and, boom, it’ll fix itself” -Whoever the Microsoft CEO is now

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    For what it’s worth, my KDE file browser would freeze up when I had a WebDav network drive to a server that went offline, not exactly elegant either, just opening my home folder and randomly after a second or two …… all software can bug in bad ways.

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      I don’t believe that is a KDE specific issue. I’ve seen it in most DE’s

      It’s more of a mount/file system limitation. For whatever reason you have to explicitly tell the file system that if it can’t connect to something, to timeout.

      Add a timeout to your mount rule and if it ends up being unavailable it’ll just timeout instead of freezing your file browser.

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      The main difference is KDE doesn’t make disgusting money off it, and if someone cares enough they can actually submit a fix

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        That’s the reason I put up with a lot of FOSS issues: “I’m not paying you for this, so it’s still a better price/result ratio than paid services”

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      True, I’ve experienced that bug.

      The big different is that, depending on how knowledgeable you are, you can either report the bug, you can diagnose it (check the logs, trace and profile the calls), dig in the code, patch it or try a patch someone developed for the bug, or simply ignore it and use a different file browser. That freedom is priceless.

      With Windows you’re stuck waiting for the next upgrade that may or may not break something else and brings new and exciting AI and telemetry shoved into it.

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      That is definitely an annoyance. But the cause is not your file browser or KDE. The webdav has been mounted to the system and when an application tries to use it, it runs into a timeout. You can’t even unmount it, since that requires the system to talk to the network drive.

      This is also not limited to webdav, it happens with all kinds of network drives. This is something that needs to be addressed at the core level of Linux. But I have no expertise, so no real clue where exactly.

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        this is a file browser or KDE issues, as file system operations shouldn’t happen on the UI thread. if it weren’t happening on the UI thread then it would keep working.

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          The same behavior happens for me in a different file browser (Nemo) and a different Desktop (Cinnamon). So I’m pretty confident, it is no isolated KDE issue.

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            not an isolated one, but an issue in all of these you mentioned too. this is a common design mistake devs make if they don’t use the network share functions or slow storage, because they don’t notice there is a problem and how severe it is

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    You know I never really thought about it but do you think the spying tools these companies provide ever fail like the way their other products do?

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    IT has been an interesting ride the last two months, encountering some of the weirdest bugs I’ve ever seen, after two decades of Windows working just fine for the most part.

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      Had one yesterday where sound in win11 worked, except in browsers. Multiple browsers just wouldn’t output any sound through any site.

      Haven’t fixed it yet… it was end of shift and there was a dell bios update to run (which has been known to fix some of the weird shit around there.) I uninstalled all the third party audio drivers, rebooted for the bios update, and called it a day. Will check on monday, haha.

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        I’ve seen a bunch.

        Had my phone wish me a happy birthday on the wrong day. I had a whole folder of emails inexplicably moved back into my inbox, and yes, various wacky hardware problems.

        It’s clear that a bunch of the people they laid off were QA people.

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    What kind of idiots create a program that says, “Outlook failed to load. Repair application?” when the only problem is the wifi is disconnected?

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      The problem is that someone decided to dumb down the error message to not scare users, instead of passing on the real error code from the application that people could Google and fix in 5 mins themselves.

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        On top of that, the logs for the actual support technicians are scattered all across the filesystem.
        C:\ProgramData\
        C:\Users\AppData\Roaming or Local or maybe LocalLow
        C:\Windows\Temp
        It’s own install folder
        C:\Programs
        C:\Programs (x86)

        Like…why (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻)

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        It’s like this with a blue screen. You used to tell you what went wrong but now it just shows a :-( Which is pathetic.

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          The tiny text and QR code actually have the error still. It’s just the frowny face is 10x the font size.

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            They’re just generic error messages though. If you actually want to know what went wrong you have to go into the error log, which hopefully you actually have access to. If it just blue screens on boot your SOL unless you’re in a corporate environment with external logs.

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        Dumb downed? They’ve taken a simple error and made it into something that does scare users. The “Repair application?” was far more alarming to my visiting friend than an “No Internet connection” would have been. It is astounding that any company would put out such complete shit.

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    Didn’t windows 11 become available long ago? Did no one ever try it out before the hostage situation?

    Certainly not the beta testers

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      I tried it for a couple of months when it first came out. At that early point it wasn’t too bad for usability. But, after a decent look around it, I wiped it and went back to Linux on my laptop.