• Whostosay@sh.itjust.works
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      As much as I’d like to see this creature meet a firing squad, all prisoners deserve to be treated as people. I do have an issue with her “knowing the right people” and being treated differently.

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        all prisoners deserve to be treated as people

        eh, child sex slavery is where I’d draw the line but that’s just me

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          Yeah that’s shit is abhorrent but you still can’t become them in order to pursue revenge. Guy below me said it better. In a perfect world, where you could know the truth 100% of the time, firing squad all day. We don’t live in that world though.

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            you still can’t become them in order to pursue revenge

            I disagree here. This would not be “becoming them” in any way. What I do agree with you though is that the damage of “punish culture” could outweigh the gains of punishment/death in some grand utilitarian sense but from personal philosophy pov I find no problem with not having any sympathy, even as far as “treated as people”, for these objectively horrible monsters.

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              True, wasnt a spot on comparison. But yeah there’s a grey area here that’s hard to approach, there’s also the problem of our very flawed courts that lock innocent people up all the time.

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                I definitely agree with the flawed justice system and tbh that’s really the only reason I’m against death penalty.

                Some people are really really bad and if we are 100% sure they are then deleting them from the society is actually a good option as it frees up bandwidth and resources for more productive endeavours. The 100% sure is really hard to get but, as we can see, not always.

                The other interesting point is that suffering in “humane sort of banishment” can be viewed as a ethical-purgatory of sorts and maybe we want that even if we’d never see the rehabilitation?