Yeah that’s shit is abhorrent but you still can’t become them in order to pursue revenge. Guy below me said it better. In a perfect world, where you could know the truth 100% of the time, firing squad all day. We don’t live in that world though.
you still can’t become them in order to pursue revenge
I disagree here. This would not be “becoming them” in any way. What I do agree with you though is that the damage of “punish culture” could outweigh the gains of punishment/death in some grand utilitarian sense but from personal philosophy pov I find no problem with not having any sympathy, even as far as “treated as people”, for these objectively horrible monsters.
True, wasnt a spot on comparison. But yeah there’s a grey area here that’s hard to approach, there’s also the problem of our very flawed courts that lock innocent people up all the time.
I definitely agree with the flawed justice system and tbh that’s really the only reason I’m against death penalty.
Some people are really really bad and if we are 100% sure they are then deleting them from the society is actually a good option as it frees up bandwidth and resources for more productive endeavours. The 100% sure is really hard to get but, as we can see, not always.
The other interesting point is that suffering in “humane sort of banishment” can be viewed as a ethical-purgatory of sorts and maybe we want that even if we’d never see the rehabilitation?
eh, child sex slavery is where I’d draw the line but that’s just me
Yeah that’s shit is abhorrent but you still can’t become them in order to pursue revenge. Guy below me said it better. In a perfect world, where you could know the truth 100% of the time, firing squad all day. We don’t live in that world though.
I disagree here. This would not be “becoming them” in any way. What I do agree with you though is that the damage of “punish culture” could outweigh the gains of punishment/death in some grand utilitarian sense but from personal philosophy pov I find no problem with not having any sympathy, even as far as “treated as people”, for these objectively horrible monsters.
True, wasnt a spot on comparison. But yeah there’s a grey area here that’s hard to approach, there’s also the problem of our very flawed courts that lock innocent people up all the time.
I definitely agree with the flawed justice system and tbh that’s really the only reason I’m against death penalty.
Some people are really really bad and if we are 100% sure they are then deleting them from the society is actually a good option as it frees up bandwidth and resources for more productive endeavours. The 100% sure is really hard to get but, as we can see, not always.
The other interesting point is that suffering in “humane sort of banishment” can be viewed as a ethical-purgatory of sorts and maybe we want that even if we’d never see the rehabilitation?