you still can’t become them in order to pursue revenge
I disagree here. This would not be “becoming them” in any way. What I do agree with you though is that the damage of “punish culture” could outweigh the gains of punishment/death in some grand utilitarian sense but from personal philosophy pov I find no problem with not having any sympathy, even as far as “treated as people”, for these objectively horrible monsters.
True, wasnt a spot on comparison. But yeah there’s a grey area here that’s hard to approach, there’s also the problem of our very flawed courts that lock innocent people up all the time.
I definitely agree with the flawed justice system and tbh that’s really the only reason I’m against death penalty.
Some people are really really bad and if we are 100% sure they are then deleting them from the society is actually a good option as it frees up bandwidth and resources for more productive endeavours. The 100% sure is really hard to get but, as we can see, not always.
The other interesting point is that suffering in “humane sort of banishment” can be viewed as a ethical-purgatory of sorts and maybe we want that even if we’d never see the rehabilitation?
I disagree here. This would not be “becoming them” in any way. What I do agree with you though is that the damage of “punish culture” could outweigh the gains of punishment/death in some grand utilitarian sense but from personal philosophy pov I find no problem with not having any sympathy, even as far as “treated as people”, for these objectively horrible monsters.
True, wasnt a spot on comparison. But yeah there’s a grey area here that’s hard to approach, there’s also the problem of our very flawed courts that lock innocent people up all the time.
I definitely agree with the flawed justice system and tbh that’s really the only reason I’m against death penalty.
Some people are really really bad and if we are 100% sure they are then deleting them from the society is actually a good option as it frees up bandwidth and resources for more productive endeavours. The 100% sure is really hard to get but, as we can see, not always.
The other interesting point is that suffering in “humane sort of banishment” can be viewed as a ethical-purgatory of sorts and maybe we want that even if we’d never see the rehabilitation?