Online pornography showing strangulation or suffocation is to be made illegal, as part of government plans to tackle violence against women and girls.
It follows a review which found depictions of choking were “rife” on mainstream porn sites and had helped normalise the act among young people.
Both the possession and publication of such material will be a criminal offence, under amendments to the Crime and Policing Bill currently going through Parliament.
You know, there’s a fun observation to be made here: for every perversion you ban, the more niche ones move further up the view list. In essence, short of a complete porn ban (which is their final goal), they’re likely to make the problem worse.
In terms of boys learning violence from this kind of porn - surely the online safety act is doing that right? Of course not; that act has failed gloriously and this proposed change evidences that.
The real solution they should be considering is strong messages about “safe, sane, consensual”. Stick it up on posters, make it a mandatory banner on porn sites (who would complain, really), even take that shit into schools (it’s good practice even for vanilla). The real issue isn’t the acts themselves, it’s the way we talk about them, or more don’t!
Dark fantasies and dark sex acts aren’t the problem. Abusive partners are the problem
To anyone celebrating this: you’re defending a fucking bad faith law!
Does any of the recent anti-LGBTQ+ laws are just to protect little Jimmy being a “little confused”, to protect him from “making life altering decisions”? Did any of the Nazi anti-Jewish laws were only made to stop predatory banking? Fuck no! And fuck you if you think we can just "undo it easily later on: no one wants to be the “pervert politician”, no one wants to be smeared by the opposition as “the real misogynist” or a “pervert being occupied with things other than the economy”, so no one will do it.
I don’t like choking in porn. The problem is a failure of both the lack of sexual education, and not holding platforms accountable for replatforming the likes of Andrew Tate, not some smut.
I think you’re also missing the part where some people are just legit into strangling.
One of my exes loved it, loved watching porn about it. Does she have to become a criminal now just to scratch her itch?
Prohibiting fantasies won’t stop actual bad people, as it never has. I’d say we would be better off with education on how to do it safely if you’re really into it, education of men on how to do this respectfully, again, of both are legit into it.
We should also makke sure it’s very clear for women facing abusive partners that they can leave, that they won’t lose everything they got, that they won’t lose their family, that they won’t face stigmatization, and we should make sure that they have all resources available to get back on their feet
Dark fantasies and dark sex acts aren’t the problem. Abusive partners are the problem
I am… Rather older than most of you, in all probability. My partner likes being choked; not hard, not actually cutting off air or blood, but the sensation of hands or an arm around their throat. They also like being caned, and spanked; I’m into fairly serious rope bondage (as a rope top) and CNC.
Under British law, a large percentage of the sexual activities that we both enjoy together would be criminal offenses.
For what it’s worth, in the 1920s, oral sex was considered shocking to moral sensibilities, perverted, an affront against nature, and grotesquely obscene. I suspect that the view from the year 2100–should humanity survive that long–will see choking in much the same way.
I’ve never been choked, but I like to hold my breath right as I’m about to ejaculate (cause it makes the orgasm stronger for some reason), so I could absolutely see the appeal. So long as it’s consentual, I see no issue with choking in sex.
The US and UK are in a race to see who can out-Fash the other.
It sure seems like the puritans are in charge these days. And their using kids to ram through whatever the fuck they want. As long as no one is getting hurt, I dont really see what business it is of any government what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own homes. I mean, even if you were choking her out, as long as it was what she wanted, its really up to you two to take on the risks.
I dont understand it, but who cares? Im not in the room. Its nothing to do with me, or anyone else. I cant help but feel this is the beginning of something a bit more sinister. Maybe someday soon, blow jobs will be looked down upon again. Or far more likely, being gay will be looked down upon again. Cos thats where these weirdos always look to when they talk about things “corrupting the youth”. A bit of slap and tickle first, attack the LGBT crowd next under the guise of protecting the children/young people. “Youre not gay, youve just seen too many blowjobs, Timmy. Youll be alright after we send you to a re-education camp.”…
Won’t be any kids to protect soon as the raging inequality continues to rise and people become completely unable to afford them.
Why do you think that sex ed is being banned, they’re trying to prevent people from having access to porn, and womens’ reproductive care is being sharply limited? They know kids are gonna fuck if they don’t have any other outlet, and kids are going to fuck unsafely. Then they’ve got the babies that they need to keep delivering Amazon packages and assembling iPhones.
If the argument for the ban is that depiction normalizes it, then there should be a ban on violence in all media, right?
Video games too!
Comparing brain death due to strangulation to moral panic is obviously incorrect.
But what if I like being choked? UwU
The morality police in the UK strike again. They’re slowly turning into Saudi Arabia the longer they keep this up.
No wonder they keep importing people with this exact moral view.
The porn industry is now in non-consenting bondage
So men don’t get choked? Why are these things always gender specific?
I like to get a little choked every now and then, during. Am I illegal?
Yes I recommend you handcuff yourself immediately, maybe tie yourself up a bit, you’ve been pretty naughty
Hhhhh okay Mami, I mean yes officer.
They do. Watch most pegging, or “Trans fucks guy” videos, and the dude will be turning fucking beetroot while getting pounded hard.
It’s less prevalent, but this content definitely exists too.
Maybe Timber is not as popular in the UK political scene.
I already don’t like that kind of shit, it’s an immediate turn-off for me.
But - I also know there’s a whole kink around it, and as long as it’s consensual…who tf cares?
I suppose I would file this one under massive sex education failure, if youths are having to learn about sex from porn there’s already a problem.
Jfc more conservative pearl clutching censorship laws in supposedly developed countries? What a time to be alive.
Don’t worry, it’s not the Conservatives, it’s the Labour Government implementing this!
Good thing Labour will never be anything like the Tories amirite fellow chokers?
Always great to see that politics are broadly similar everywhere. It’s always irritating to see Democrats cross the aisle when it comes to shitty pearl clutching laws like this. It’s somewhat comforting to know that your fake left wing party is also shitty in similar ways to our fake left wing party.
I’ll forward any I find to my local MP
This is in direct response to some recent studies that claimed that chocking is the second most common cause of stroke in women under 40. Other studied found that there is no safe amount of oxygen deprivation, any chocking leads to brain damage. Other risks of choking are difficulty swallowing, incontinence, seizures, memory problems, depression, anxiety and miscarriage.
What happened is that porn normalized chocking. It used to be limited to the “hard core” types of porn but now it’s mainstream and kids that grew up watching it think it’s just normal part of sex. Most women asked about it say that they don’t enjoy it but do it “for their partner’s pleasure”.
So yeah, the government treats it as a public health issue and bans it.
I’m not a scientists, I didn’t review all those studies and frankly I don’t care one way of the other. Just wanted to give people some context.
You can read more about it here: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2025/jul/07/no-safe-way-risks-of-choking-during-sex
First they came for the Chokers , And I did not speak out Because I like to breath
Then they came for the Foot fanatics , And I did not speak out Because I was not into feet
Then they came for the thigh highs , And I did not speak out Because I was not into socks
Then they came for the Brazilian cake farts , And there was no one left To speak out for me
Like, I get it, but this but unironically. The UK has already put a bathroom ban out for trans folks. How long before they ban trans porn because it’s considered harmful? How long before they start to label other trans things as adult and ban those too?
Finally one single comment nuancing this instead of just going “wtf censorship!!!”. Women are literally feeling pressured to get choked during sex because we have a sick porn industry thriving on depicting women as an object you can treat in any way you want. This is a fucking disgusting cultural development and moat people here (99% men obviously) are defending it. What you do at home in consent is up to you, but you guys must realize that the way we depict women in porn will shape the culture of how men expects women to behave, and what obscure shit women feel they are expected to put up with.
An article about this was posted 6 months ago and I looked into it: https://lemmy.world/comment/16311493
I wrote:
This article is feeling kind of clickbaitish, as the sources are … odd.
However, restricting blood flow to the brain can also have serious health implications.
While not all pressure on the neck will be fatal, research shows even relatively low pressure can cause death by strangulation.
The first source is a medical journal describing the physiology of the arteries in the neck, and does not seem to include anything about restricting blood flow (never mind temporarily) having serious health consequences.
The second source is a book from 1991 about autoerotic asphyxiation with the quote:
autoerotic asphyxia denotes death resulting from failure of a release mechanism of the device, apparatus or prop designed to attain cerebral hypoxia for heightened arousal.
Which is … not the same as doing this with someone, and doesn’t address the risks of a partner who releases pressure immediately after a loss of consciousness.
The issues around consent are troubling indeed, consent should always be paramount.
I also found it amusing that the beginning of the article said
Although rare, strangulation is the leading cause of death in consensual BDSM play.
Which links to a study that found a total of 16 cases that included strangulation between 1982 and 2020. Rare indeed.
My husband and I dabble in breath play, so I was curious and read a few studies myself. It seems that every case study I could find included atypical circumstances. Things like accidental hanging, or asphyxiation due to bags etc being over the head.
This paper includes a 50 year review of cases for anyone interested. https://benthamopen.com/contents/pdf/TOFORSJ/TOFORSJ-1-1.pdf
It is also worth noting that loss of consciousness due to cutting off blood flow to the brain (cerebral hypoxia) is not dissimilar to the hypoxia experienced by pilots, who even train with repeated exposure to hypoxia in hyperbaric chambers.
I would be curious to know if there were any studies of the long term effects of this on pilots. (My dive into the rabbit hole is done for the day, lol.)
porn normalized chocking
I’m not sold on the “porn normalized XYZ”, or non porn either. There’s plenty of content of all kinds showing all kind of things that would be deemed dangerous, wrong, lethal, immoral, cruel, etc. but somehow, it’s only porn and kinks we’re talking about. If the prevalence of something in easily accessible media was a thing, I’d have a thing or two to tell about cops choking/gasing/beating up people laying on the ground.
I’m more concerned by the amount of people that consider fictional content to be guidelines for how they actually live their life. It seems that there’s enough of them to warrant censoring weird shit, but as long as this side of the issue is not addressed, this will not stop.
When I was younger (yes… classic one) a lot of people were worried that younger generation could not distinguish fiction from reality. And we didn’t even have realistic fiction, too. Now that we do, it seems that too many people consider “normalisation” through any media the natural course of things. Kinda like video game making people violent… only when it is convenient.
If I didn’t know how exploitative the current porn industry is I’d defend the choking but holy shit producers are fucking vile.
