We need to swiftly transform No Kings from a Democratic Party spectacle to a grass roots resistance movement.
So you guys WANT the republicans? It’s wild that Trump and the GOP are actively demolishing democracy and you guys still see the Dems as to e enemy. Right wing propaganda and social media rotted your entire country’s already rotted brains
they literally are the first hurdle into solving the republican problem.
and while i do appreciate that they are FINALLY doing something i can point to and say it’s a good start (holding fast to their demands on the shut down) they otherwise hold the rest of us back. they need to stop harming the chances of progressive candidates in their own party, stop sueing to block passed ballot initiative for progressive action. stop their actions to help their corporate doaners, and actually pass progressive laws
Look, the most third party senators the USA has ever had was 11 in 1899. Even when the parties dissolved or rearranged it was always Demcoratic Republicans v Federalists, Jacksonians v AntiJacksonions, Democrats v Whigs, Democrats v Opposition, Democrats v Republicans.
Last congress there were 4 Independents and it lead to Republicans sweeping the 2024 election.
This is a two party system. One of them wants a King and the other does not. Democrats are the only way to progress. The only way. Singular.
LOL what? I was at both and this take on it is dumb. It is very grass roots. I saw American flags, both right side up and upside down, Mexican flags, Palestinian flags, LGBTQ flags, and more. No Democratic party flags. Yes, frogs, axolotls, spongebobs and Santa’s. You know, democracy.
same, Saw no democrats in there, no stalls, no flags, nothing. the local DSA was there though canvassing for free healthcare and other common sense policies.
I’ve found out about them during the first no kings
Nice! It seems like these events might a good place for smaller parties to make their presence known to people. Maybe even get some new ones going!
Yes, my DSA is growing thanks to NoKings.
no doubt the us is fed up with Democrats, even though republicans is the main evil, the uselessness of corporate owned political parties is pissing everyone.
Yep. From my experience of them I think people are really just looking for some new options.
Yhea, the democratic party is a dead party. they couldn’t even win against Trump, the worst candidate and president in US history.
And so many dems bent the knee to trump, and only offer symbolic useless resistance.
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I legit didn’t know there was a Dem flag. Is it just a flag with a donkey?
Also. This post is definitely propaganda b.s
Man you guys are trying really hard to delegeitimize this thing before it gets going. I just read MAGA had started posting to BlueSky. Guess they’re already here in Lemmy too…
I went to a No Kings protest with a couple thousand people. It didn’t seem partisan in the least to me. I saw 0 signs supporting any politician. All I saw was anti fascist and anti oligarchical messaging.
They all think fascism only comes from the red side
Isnt no kings specifically to under mine trump so democrats and retake power and the country doesn’t keep imploding? Why would you remove the political party from it, makes no sense.
That would be a good argument if the Democrats hadn’t paved the way for Trump. We need new politics and new systems.
The only people who paved the way for trump were the people who didnt vote against trump and the right wing media machine. There is no looking at the two platforms and think its a hard choice. If your values lean left the choice is easy.
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And how do you suppose you get that without primarying incumbent and establishment dems with progressives? Which involves voting Dem and in Dem primaries.
There is a non-negligeable number of people convinced that all of the Democrat Platform are policies they don’t stand for. They think Obamacare was just Romneycare. Ideological puritans who would rather everyone abstain from participating elections than pick harm minimalization option.
This ideology gets furtherd and promoted by foreign psyops who frequently post on DB0 and Lemmy ML, much in the same vein that Russian operations promoted Bernie Sanders on FaceBook after he had already lost the primary and asked people to vote for Hillary in the general.
Basically everything is burning and some people think adding fuel is better than water.
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Not watching Israel bombing Gaza was never on the table but the USA definitely had a choice between more death and less death, and it chose more.
Article has a point. No kings should embrace local activists who are actually doing things on the ground rather than the corporate politicians who got us in this mess in the first place.
Also be nice to see it turn into kind of a grassroots movement rather than acting as a relief valve for political action.
In the town I was in, there was no notable aspect of Democratic politics whatsoever. Where are you getting that No Kings is tied to the Democratic party?
Where are you getting that No Kings is tied to the Democratic party?
It’s the kind of conclusion a person comes to if they only think in binary terms.
They can’t imagine being agaist one political party as being anything other than directly supporting that party’s opponent.
If you aren’t leveraging this to get political power back from Republicans then there is no point in the protest. Its not a revolution, its to drum up anti trump sentiment then directed into the mid terms to remove republicans from power.
The Communist Party USA had a table with brochures at the event, but no CPUSA representative addressed the crowds
the commies will come and ruin this lovely consensus to the benefit of their authoritarian chums
Uh, no. It is a grass roots thing that the Democrats are on board with. They aren’t much better, but at least they actually want to govern, not have a KKK rally and complain about randos on social media making them feel bad. You have two fucking options, pick the lesser evil, please!!! Or make a better government. Just fucking do something! The whole waiting for someone else to save you thing was cute at first, but pick your fucking selves off the ground and stop having a tantrum like a two year old.
Lmao, what? This is a really dumb take and sounds like a desperate maga, tbh. They didn’t like hearing speeches from dems. Just go for a walk with the rest of the protestors.
It’s just the new ML plan. Haven’t you noticed how they all criticize the dems—but never Trump? Have you ever heard one of them criticize Trump in regard to Gaza? Have you ever heard them criticize any right wing American? I can’t recall that happening.
ML love MAGA.
Honestly this 100% rings true in my experience ^
When we do criticize Republicans liberals think we are one of them.
Give me an example of how you would criticize a republican in a way that would make me think you’re a republican.
I expect you do give a non-answer, change the topic, and make person insults. Will I be right?
That’s not what I said, I said. When liberals hear leftists, socialist and communists criticizing Republican, you assume that we are one of you and simply agree. So you think you’re only hearing us criticize one side, Democrats, because that’s the only ones you’re listening to.
I don’t know about anybody else but when I hear you talking I know it’s just to crush the west at any cost, and nothing you say can truly be trusted.
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I only read the first paragraph. It sounded incredibly disingenuous. These rallies are impactful because of the turnout.
Without the democratic organization, it would not be remotely as impactful. Think that is exactly what the author of this article wants.
Also the difference between a democratic backed Indivisible group vs decentralized 50501. Indivisible brings a lot more people to protest.
I’ve never even heard of 50501. So that’s exactly what they want.
I saw nothing whatever to do with the Democratic party at any of the protests I went to.
The biggest issue with No King’s, at least out of my perspective is that it is only centered around Trump and his cronies, and doesn’t actually target the system that keeps churning out people like Trump, produces them and puts them into power. Americans believe that Trump happened to them like a natural disaster would, and that they were sadly just ill prepared. They fail to see and correctly point out that the system thrives on people like Trump and actively pursues putting them into positions of power. Until that isn’t addressed, these protests will bring about no material change.
P.2025 has been decades in the making. They have been systemically cutting funding for education for as long as I’ve been alive. Add in social media and it’s manufactured division, it has been a perfect shit storm for a takeover.
Note, I’m agreeing with you and adding a thought here. I’ve always figured it would need to get ugly if any meaningful change were to happen, how ugly does it need to get? This is the only question I have now.
I believe that The No Kings Movement has three fundamental tasks – 1) to assure that the Democratic Party does not gain control of the coalition, 2) to expand the coalition to include those without an institutional voice (the poor, the unhoused, the unregistered and non-voters, and most importantly, the millions of undocumented US residents at risk for MAGA’s genocidal zeal). The third task is the most difficult and subsumes the goal of limiting the influence of the Democratic Party. 3) The No Kings Day project must take the critical jump from protest to civil disobedience.
Nice to see they remembered that MAGA is a part of the problem.
I’m not a big fan of the Democratic party, but I wouldn’t put stopping them as the number one goal.
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Anybody who share the same noble values should be allowed
Yes, democrats are being pussies. More action less strong letters
They shut down the government for you, asshole. That is literally the full extent of their power with a pitiful 45:53 ratio in the senate.
Resistance against what?
Against the Democrats. It appears that they are the real problem according to this opinion piece.
