Argentina’s libertarian president, Javier Milei, is the lucky winner of $40 billion that Donald Trump managed to conjure from thin air. Less lucky are the Americans who rely on the government programs Trump has gutted to be able to “save” that sum.

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    In other words, our taxes now pay for health care for Argentinians, not Americans. Despite the fact that they are claiming the current shutdown is because they don’t want our taxes paying for non-Americans getting health care. Make it make sense.

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    Dude is just draining our economy for personal gain.

    I bet half of this (probably why he chose to double it) will be waiting for him in his bunker when he finally has to flee.

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      Not sure what you’re talking about. I’m not American, but this action is pretty clear to me. Milei came into power promising to resolve the economic crisis of Argentina through extreme liberalisation of economy and with stronger bonds with the USA. The USA indeed benefits from these bonds, through the privatisation of companies and natural resources as well as the possibility to act as a foreign investor. However, the economic crisis has not been resolved: life is expensive and salaries are low. This year there are elections in Argentina, there is the possibility of a change of government to a party which may not be so friendly to the USA. By giving Milei a large sum of money Trump gets more support from Milei directly (and probably some favours and concessions) as well as a higher chance that Milei gets reelected. With that money Milei can give subsidies and enact reforms which the people will appreciate and point out how his reforms worked out, as well as show that his bonds with the USA are beneficial to the country.

      You say Trump is draining the economy of USA for his personal gain, but this very much does not seem the case. Looking at the history of Latin America this looks much more as a small investment to drain the Argentinian economy.

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        Dude, he said he will only give the money if Millei wins again. It’s a direct bribe to the people of Argentina.

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          I’m not sure, the article does not say so. Regardless, my analysis is independent from this fact. My main point is that this is not Trump stealing money from the government, but rather Trump investing money to gain a strong influence on a country that has always been rich and full of resources.

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              Thank you for the reference. I would consider this an investment by the government, at that it does not appear to be a bad one at all. Even though I really despise the implications behind it, it is a justified and rational choice.

              The US relies on influence on external countries and foreign investments. Do you think the US is rich because of their great manufacturing and exports? I live in Europe and own basically nothing made in the US. Not because I’m against it, there just isn’t anything made in the US to buy. It’s been a long time US products are just software and websites, but most wealth comes from other sources.

              I do not like your government, and I despise they cut government spending and social spending. I believe this will cause plenty problems in your country. However, this decision seems completely justified. The US will probably get back way more than those 40 billions, by opening mines and acquiring local industries. I believe your country is quite interested in lithium, that is a good source for it. Together with Bolivia, who has elections today and is already decided to sell off swats of its resources in exchange of some dollars for a year or two of economic stability.

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                Look man, if you’re in Argentina, I get it. You want that money. It is a lot of money.

                But c’mon. Nothing this administration does is justified. Nothing they do is in the interest of American citizens. You need to understand this.

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                  I think you’re both right. The problem in this discussion is that “justified” really depends on perspective. I agree with the other guy it is justified… from Trump’s perspective. I agree with you it is not justified for the American people.

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                  This move seems very much to the benefit of the US and to the detriment of Argentina. Argentinians will pay dearly for this. Now, if you want to close your eyes and act like the US is a third world country nobody cares about go ahead. If you don’t want to see how the US relies on influence in other countries to sustain it’s wealth, that is ok.

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        America doesnt want Milei for Argentina’s benefit, its for Americas. The only way for Argentinians to improve their lives is to counter imperialism, not hasten it.

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    That little guy with the hair beside trump was on stage at one of Elon Musk’s “rallies” not too long ago. Something smells like rotten fish here.

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    Argentina and Israel have universal healthcare for their citizens….yet we send them billions

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    Can somebody please clarify the actual transaction here? We’re not simply giving Argentina this money. It’s a swap or a loan, right? Who know if/when they’ll pay it back, but I think it should be clarified.

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    Pretty convinced that, if people in the US paid the money they pay for healthcare to live in Argentina at the current conversion rate, they would live like kings.

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    “Gurl look how orange you look” never fit better. If you compare the skin tones of these two s**t stains, Dump doesn’t qualify as caucasian