Makes sense as this is the largest perversion of government in U.S. history.
Ill be there, what about you?
Liberal here, I’m doing my part
Loud and proud.
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good luck out there everyone. stay safe.
Essentially (but sadly) this is a useless charade. Using one of your days off work to march and shout slogans is not hitting (or hurting) anyone who is propping up this fascist regime. Do this sort of thing during the week. Shut cities down. Make people in the C-level suites notice an actual change to their bottom line or this is all nothing but theater preaching to the converted.
There’s an interesting kind of poster that I’ve only seen here on Lemmy, the “why bother, it’s not going to work” poster.
Why vote? It doesn’t matter.
Why write or call your rep, they’re in the pocket of blah blah anyway?
Why put a bumper sticker in your car? Performative BS, maaaan.
Etm etm…
How do you feel when you see Trump stickers everywhere?
How do you feel when you’re in a neighborhood with pride flags everywhere? Is that different and better?
What about when you see Wellstone! sticker in deep red Midwest? A little hope that there are other people who haven’t given up?
Show up! Speak out! Be visible! Live into the small moments of joy where resistance lives!
It really does feel like there’s an uptick in doomer/not enough posts on the fediverse lately.
I didn’t say “don’t bother” I said “Do it better and more effectively.”
It has to start somehow, somewhere. So stop complaining and do it better, or get out of the way!
Not a complaint, an observation but you do you
Keep it to yourself. You’re not helping shit with your post.
Problems can be identified by anyone. Immediately dismissing any sort of reasonable constructive criticism will destroy the movement from the inside out.
But please, continue shutting people down, you seem to know that’s best.
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We’re working our way up to it. What you’re talking about is a general strike and it takes a lot of organizing. Sign a strike card! http://www.generalstrikeus.com/
Doing it on a weekday means it can be more disruptive to the status quo, but that also means more divisive. Doing it on the weekend means it’s easier for more people to participate and it can come across as more of a statement of unity.
I don’t think one is strictly better than the other. I do think this one will have an impact.
Doing it on a weekend helps build steam and commitment. Protests like this normalize dissent, gather resistance together, and provide an onramp to resistance. Going out and breaking a few windows day 1 is what an agent provocateur would say to do, it just gets the committed arrested and turns moderates against them
I find more people on lemmy of the “stop saying thing you never said” type these days. Its like they want to catch you out on a thing they think is being said, almost as if they are pushing a narrative…
Lead by example
Showing up exactly where they expect you to and getting shot with pepperballs isnt making things better. As far as I can tell these protests are just outrage relief.
Hey little bro, mom says you gotta do a 250 word essay on the civil rights movement.
Etm etm…
What does that mean? Is it a typo meant to say Etc etc…?
“Etm” is used the same way as “etc.” It stands for “et merde” instead of “et cetera” which would mean “and shit” instead of “and others.”
Maybe read it more as “and more other shit like this” when you see it at the end of a list of a bunch of shit.
oh, thanks! I may start using that.
If you/we can’t even bother to attend a protest on a day off for a few hours, how the hell are we going to do it during the week, to shut cities down?
For something so pointless Mike Johnson and the usual stooges seem to be spending a lot of time talking about the upcoming protests using inflammatory rhetoric. One would think they might not bother if what you say were true.
Yeah, I don’t think the Americans who opposes what’s happening understand that they’re beyond the point where they can lawfully protest their way out of it. So long as stock market lines keep going up , the administration can just ignore these protests. Hell the media is complicit and won’t report how vast these protests are anyways.
If you want to put your conspiracy hat on, this is controlled opposition in that it acts as a pressure release valve for their opposition to exert themselves and feel like they’ve done something, without doing anything of real consequence.
Are there protests a necessary part of resistance? Perhaps. It keeps many people engaged than would otherwise be. But they are not even close to being sufficient. Remember , were like 8 months into this.
Is that you JD?
Yeah dude the only one who thinks this is pointless is JD himself. Go shout your heart out tomorrow. I look forward to the fall of the evil empire by tomorrow afternoon.
Get your head out of your ass. PR stunts and “protests” where you get your ass beat by cops isn’t going to save our country. Especially when you show up exactly where they expect you to.
nova_ad_vitum is spot on about it being a pressure relief valve.
The info I have read says, historically, nothing will come of these protests until 3.5% of the people take part and even then doing it for one day, on a weekend, is much less effective than days or even a weeks long shutdown
It bothers him deeply
See you out there tomorrow
It better be our future depends on it
#NOKINGS 10/18/25 - Find your local protest: https://www.nokings.org/#map
Good! And we will do it again and again and again.
Yeah, just like the previous one which did diddly squat
Make it matter this time. Stop the country until the fascists are all gone or something, but make it worth while. Just another three second blip on the news won’t do shit
The purpose of a mass expressive protest is threefold: 1. Demonstrate to the fascists that we are many, we are organized, and we will not stand by silently as they try to steamroll our rights, 2. Demonstrate to other anti-fascists or just those with doubts about the regime that they are not alone, and 3. Get casual protestors involved in more direct resistance activities. There are often tables with resistance organizations handing out flyers with ways to join up.
These big protests are just one piece of a healthy resistance movement.
Exactly. I think what I see on lemmy is a great deal of misunderstanding regarding where the American population is at right now. Lemmy has, on average, a far higher level of political engagement than the average American and there is a greater representation of activists on this platform. The American public is simply not at the ‘let’s improvise a mass work-stoppage’ stage. We just aren’t where we need to be to topple a fascist regime.
A primary benefit to these large protests is to drive political engagement and remove perceived barriers to activism. That is how we move things from ‘useless protests’ to ‘impactful resistance’. You have to get more of the public to where we are already at, even if it is frustrating to wait for all these people to catch up.
While I agree on all points, I think many folks on Lemmy are pretty uneducated on how activism and non-violent resistance is work and takes time—leading to an expectation that if something unjust is happening, we should all just riot and engage in armed rebellion or whatever. It’s like they’re impatient with the slow progress, which honestly I am too. The difference is that I recognize that slow progress is really the only viable path right now.
For our part, I think we need to do better at surfacing progress so that it’s clear that real resistance wins are happening even if the media generally prefers not to report on it.
(I expect there to be some serious progress surfacing going on at No Kings tomorrow.)
Protests need to be recurring to gather momentum.
This is the second No Kings rally. Isn’t that reoccurring? I get what you mean, but Trumps only been president for 10 months. In that time, all US media has been gobbled up by fascist conservatives who are fighting tooth and nail to make every American at these protests seem like a terrorist extremist.
The protests WILL increase. And they WILL keep reoccurring. There’s clear momentum gathering.
Just that momentum needs to be slow, and silly, to effectively disrupt the false narrative being broadcast on almost every single news network in the US right now.
Trump won because people here fully believe whatever bullshit the TV tells them. Batboy and Bigfoot are basically real to these people, and there’s literally no convincing them otherwise because it’s now on every channel they watch.
We need those people to see how the TV is wrong before they can even begin to understand how wrong our country now is.
If protests were every week the moment Trump took office, then it would just become white noise to these people.
Letting Trump dig his own grave by constantly altering the narrative is more effective than giving him the same material to work from that got him into position in the first place.
Hardcore Republicans are finally seeing how dangerous the rhetoric is becoming because Fox News is telling them people in Frog Costumes are Terrorists. Now that it’s obvious they aren’t, maybe more of what Fox News has been saying isn’t true as well.
Slow and steady resilience to a Fascist whose going senile is a far better way to defeat that fascist than becoming the terrorists he wants his opposition to be.
Lotta loser energy in this comment section. Almost reads like scared terrorists, but I’m sure it’s nothing.
Don’t take advice from anyone you don’t consider successful.
So what violence is planned or is this another block party like last time?
I don’t know what violence the police have planned. Why don’t you ask them?
I wonder how many people at that protest didn’t vote in the last election. These protests are useless. Hold rallies for voter registration. Educate people about the impact of local government. Do anything but dress in a frog costume.
Some of these people may well also have voted for Trump and regret it.
Do anything but dress in a frog costume.
That’s only to discredit the accusation that Portland is a lawless city when ICE and national guards were sent. If they are sent to No Kings protest because of claim that protestors are violent, then why not dress up as Kermit?
Why would people who think voting is useless would go to a protest that you said is useless?
The Boston rally on Oct 18th says they’ll have a bunch of local organizations with tables, so I think they are / one can take a “both” approach.
Oh yeah, that will teach them. I am sure the other side of the broken two party system will totally fix things. This time, for sure.
Just stop pretending the us is a democracy, do something about your broken nation or just collapse already. This is just sad at this point.
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