Arachnophobia is so stupid. Just let the spiders get married
I hate this stereotype; it blames bigotry against homosexuals on homosexuals.
Nah, openly gay homosexuals aren’t bigoted, it’s only the ones in denial.
Exactly.
It’s not accusing the being gay of fucking them up, it’s accusing the unhealthy repression.
oh so much better, it’s just closeted people that are acceptable targets!
Not closeted people, just those in denial. If you’re in the closet, that means you’re scared of coming out, whereas someone who’s in denial has some unhealthy reason to want to not be gay that leads them to hate that part of themselves.
ahh, so much better
How about we just attack homophobic people for being homophobic, instead of using gay as an insult in a roundabout way of calling them a hypocrite?
As a queer person I never understood this
They are not being attacked for being gay. They are specifically attacked for being homophobic.
TERFS are also not being attacked for being women, nor is attacking TERFS an attack against all women either.
Attacking someone who’s bi or homosexual in denial and overcompensating that with hatred says absolutely nothing about gay people as a whole, or implies in any way that being gay is problematic.
And to be completely honest here, it feels kinda presumptuous the way this is being argued. Almost like it shouldn’t be allowed to criticise someone gay for any reason at all. Queer people are a very diverse group of people and obviously we have assholes, too. It’s not doing anyone a favor if we act like that’s impossible.
They are specifically attacked for being homophobic.
No, they are attacked for (assumingly) being gay
Maybe you and I are having different conversations then. I’ve never experienced it being taken this way.
There’s a lot of overlap
I just wish there was a clean way to diss them for weaponising their self-hatred. If you think of a really pithy insult for people who externalise their negative feelings, please share with the rest of us, it’s badly needed.
weaponising their self-hatred
But it’s also just regular hatred, same reason you can’t call racist people the N word.
Even if there was a slur for hypocrites, that’s still just an ad hominem instead of attacking them for their behavior (the actual problem)
I don’t know what comment you meant to reply to, but I was pretty specifically talking about attacking people for what they do.
Apparently, half of homophobes are gay. The other half have actual phobias about gay people.
So watch out, homophobes. Half of your friends secretly want to suck your dick.
Suggesting all homophobes are gay is a great way for the straight community to avoid taking responsibility for their role in perpetrating homophobia. Most homophobes are straight haters.
I think that homophobes are jealous of gays. Jealous and envious to the point of hate. I think that homophobes span the entire human range of desires but at some point the thing that they desire the most was denied to them because it is “evil”. And they just can’t fucking handle the idea of gay/trans/ect out there just doing what they desire and not being punished for it. I think for many of them, homosexual and bisexual desires are definitely the issue, but there’s plenty of straight homophobes with desires that they have been told is evil. And then there’s the plenty who actually want truly evil shit.
But you are correct, it’s not just closeted gays hating on themselves, it just happens that those seem to be the ones that seem to be the most vocal and visible.It’s also a way to tell gay people “really, this is your fault”
No “normal” person (like me!) would be homophobic, if they are homophobic they’re probably “abnormal” (just like you!!!)
(sarcasm disclaimer: this is meant to be interpreted sarcastically)
Secretly gay/bisexual. Closeted. Self-hating, spreading their hate. Trying to cling onto a precarious hold on the straight lifestyle, they want to eliminate “temptation”. Dudes, it’s only tempting if you’re already bi.
At least on the right it seems that way, with the Republican convention regularly crashing grindr.
And that is still a fraction of the community. The fact remains straight people outnumber LGBT+ folks by a considerable margin thus most haters are just hateful straight folks.
People who publicly identify as straight outnumber people who publicly identify as LGBTQ+, but the percentage of not solely straight rises in younger generations. Is it because of the vaccines (?!) or might it be that if you reduce the social penalty for admitting you’re bi, the frequency of public identification as such rises?
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“Well isn’t this all very modern.”
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Superb. Thank you for the link.
I’ve said before that the projection arguement is just used too often. Yes some of them are probably in denial about their own preferences but I would say that the vast majority are just awful people.
I think transphobics tend to have a greater chance of being trans than homophobics have been gay, possibly because homophobia is looked down on by society, (at least in the West) in a way that maybe transphobia isn’t quite as much. There are countries that have legalised gay marriage, but not hormone therapy, which is just bizarre.
Definitely true, but when it comes to the most extreme homophobes, there’s no hatred like self-hatred.
Wait? Does this mean archnophobes want to fuck spiders?
“Most” is what scares me here.
“I think homophobes are just secretly scared that cocks are delicious.”
Because most homophobes aren’t afraid of gay people. They hate them. It’s a very non descriptive labels fan is technically incorrect in most cases, though it DOES work as an insult to homophobes by making them seem like an absolute fucking wuss so I’m not in arms about that. In fact, I support it despite this fact. Fuck you, homophobes, you fucking dicks.
What a homophobe is afraid of is gay men treating them the way they treat women.
Hate is a form of fear.
Is it though?
I hate my neighbor’s Chihuahua because it barks all day everyday.
Absolutely no part of me fears a dog that weighs less than 4 lbs.
Do you stick your hands through the fence though?
It’s wood?
Solid wood, even at the front?
But this is taking around the question instead at answering it.
Do you stick your hand anywhere the nasty bitey snarly barking little thing, or do you steer clear?
True, kid. iPhones are terrifying.
Lost in Space?
The 1995 movie, yes.
Sounds like a secret spider curve ball to me
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