• HikingVet@lemmy.ca
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    Why the fuck are there still whales there and why are the corpos allowed to threaten death if these whales. They wanted to sell them to china (where they most likely will be further abused), now if they can’t get money they’ll kill them?

    C’mon Ottawa, force them to rehabilitate and release them, even if it kills the park.

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      C’mon Ottawa, force them to rehabilitate and release them, even if it kills the park.

      A lot of animals cannot be rehabilitated and released. If they were born and raised in captivity, they have effectively no chance of survival on their own. I don’t know what the situation is for these animals, but I’ve been to plenty of zoos and aquariums in the past that have rehabilitation programs and even they have a few “lifers” who will never leave.

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        AFAIK there are rarely whales born in captivity and nearly all were stolen from their pods and thrown into a swimming pool.

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        Only animal I know that even has a chance in the would is a domestic house cat. Some can’t learn to hunt, some can, you never know. And mostly how they survive is finding humans to care for them, so maybe that doesn’t really count.

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      In the past, attempts to rehabilitate whales have taken decades and resulted in failure. The whales have simply become wholly dependent on humans to feed them and give them company.

      TBH, though, most of them kept in captivity end in suicides as the reverberations from their small enclosures are like living in a room where the alarms blare 24/7 so the euthanization might actually be a gift to them.

      So it comes down to putting them in the wild to die slowly or kill them outright. If I had to choose I guess I’d want them released, but I’m not really in either camp. I also really don’t like the idea of continuing their suffering in captivity.

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    That’s a great reason not to raise wild animals in captivity.

    They’ll be held as hostages by corpo scum.

    “Give me money, or I’ll kill 30 whales. Ahahahah! They’re mine, and I can do whatever I want! AHAHAAHAH! Hail HR! Hail HR!”

    That’s not fiction. That’s the story.

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      “we’re closing. We cannot afford to keep these whales with no staff and no land. We want to move them to another habitat which has agreed to keep these animals which cannot be released.”

      “No because they could maybe be mistreated.”

      “They WILL be neglected here and the people buying the land will need them gone. It’s euthanasia or transport. Or you adopt them.”

      Barring a time machine to stop the park from opening in 1961, that’s the options.

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      In their mind the park is practically over, everyone fucking hates them, their need to provide a veneer of giving a fuck about these animals is fucking gone, who cares?

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    Canada or Ontario should liberate the whales and take over the property for the necessary property and income to do so.

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    Euthanize, BUT NOT RELEASE, right??

    Narcissism / machiavellianism / sociopathy-psychopathy / nihilism / SADISM / and systemic-dishonesty

    … dimensions-of-human-evil in their position, at least.

    The ideological displacing-considered-reasoning dimension may be on-display, too…

    ( they’re running-out of dimensions-of-human-evil to exercise!

    & the Western-psychology’s “dark triad” is only a small subset of these dimensions.

    Obviously, the psychology-profession’ll never accept these dimensions as valid, because it wasn’t them who authorized, or noticed, them.

    Profession-narcissism is a very real force in our world )


    Perhaps the executives of that operation are identifying that humankind ought murder the innocent ( the whales ) while catering-to the psychopaths ( the executives )?

    Are we obedient to that directive?

    XOR do we intentionally-ditch the dishonest-framing & force right framing, & THEN decide?

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    I dont get why the government is blocking sending the whales to China tho. If the choice is the government bankrolling Marineland, the whales being killed or the whales being sent to China isn’t selling them to China the obviously best choice? Are they worried that the big bad Chinese will steal our Whale IP?

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        Or even an adult who has never gone camping being dropped in the middle of Alaska, the Amazon, or the Ghobi desert. Odds of survival are low and they are gonna suffer from starvation, thirst, getting sick from eating/drinking from the wrong sources, or being prey to something they don’t know how to avoid. Maybe all four!

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          Hell, you could release such an adult where I live in NW Florida. Very forgiving ecosystem yet even I wouldn’t last a month.

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        The alternative is the equivalent of shooting the toddlers in the back of the head.

        Either way is horrible.

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        Not necessarily. These animals can be acclimatized and eased into it in stages to give them a fighting chance. Even if the chance of success is slim, I still fully expect the assholes who decided to breed these animals in captivity to be financially liable to cover the cost of that.

        Otherwise, whoever owns these animals should be legally bound to financially support them until they die of old age. If someone decides to breed sentient creatures in captivity they should know that they can’t just discard them like an old newspaper if that doesn’t turn out to be a good investment.