With just over 24 hours before the government is set to shutdown, Donald Trump and congressional leaders from both parties emerged from a high-stakes White House meeting on Monday with no agreement, setting the stage for large swaths of the federal government to close after midnight Wednesday.
The impasse came after closed-door talks between the four top congressional leaders and Trump in the Oval Office, where lawmakers appeared to trade blame but make little progress towards a deal. “There are still large differences between us,” Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer told reporters after the meeting, claiming that Republicans refused to engage on their core demands around health care and restoring previous funding cuts.
“Their bill has not one iota of Democratic input,” he added, taking aim at a House-passed seven-week stopgap funding bill that Senate Democrats rejected last week. “That is never how we’ve done this before.”
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Sen. John Fetterman of Pennsylvania was the lone Democrat to vote with a majority of Republicans in favor of the bill on Sept. 19
I think we can all safely say that Fetterman isn’t a Democrat anymore. He should be ejected from the party.
The Democrats caved to Trump the last time, they better not cave this time.
I think that’s why Reps are gearing up for war. This could get nasty.
Going to be hard to get soldiers to fight for zero pay.
Time can go fuck itself for this bullshit headline. “Democrats leave White House with no deal”?
How about “Republicans refuse Democrat deal, setting stage for Republican Government shutdown”
Or maybe something like “Republicans Refuse To Give Americans Benefits and Medical they Pay For, Govenment Shutdown Imminent”
Sanewashing in full force, yet again.
History books should note how everything tilted towards insanity led by a complicit media simply for the sake of money.
Won’t change anything in the future surely but it’d be nice to note at least.
It is pretty obvious, the narrative has been completely captured. All news only reports what these imbeciles say. No pushback, always giving them the deference.
This happened after 9/11 in a very pronounced way. No serious or widespread criticism was allowed in mainstream media. Although the government did apply some pressure it was mostly voluntary.
What do you do when all the pseudo rulling institutions capitulate to a tyrant willingly? What happen when the government becomes indistinguishable from the mob?
The answer is not much, because it has happened many times before already. People need to wake up.
We’re so fucked.
Good, let it shut down. Let the people know that Republicans can’t govern and will 100% abandon them to protect Trump.
Let the federal government stay that way. Blue states should start picking up services where the federal government left off. And the feds don’t need their tax money, either.
The Republicans shut down the government to prevent the release of the Epstein files.
Republicans don’t want a deal. Then they can make up whatever they want about democrats and claim they’re the problem and maneuver for more power grabs.
Americans will never miss their water until the well runs dry.
It’s not that Americans are all racist, or all ignorant… it’s that enough of them don’t spare a thought to think things through until it effects them personally.
Welcome to life in America. Where intelligence and common sense aren’t so common. People will literally kill you so they can happily vote against their own interests.
Truth.
Living in Canada is like having crazy downstairs neighbours but for some reason one of our roommates keeps inviting them upstairs.
I have not been to the USA in a decade. Literally the only reason I’ll ever, ever, return is to visit Casa Bonita in Colorado… ideally on a layover.
We made it in last October. Very well worth the visit, if you can get a reservation
Glad to hear!
Any stories??
We sprung for the “premium seating.” It was only maybe $10 more per person, but you get seated along the diving cliff so you can see the show better. And because we were one of the last tables of the night, we got lucky and ended up with the best table in the place, right next to/above the cliff divers. I’m not really sure how best to describe it, so it’s a good thing I have video evidence 😅
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Well shit. I checked to see if it showed my name and it didn’t seem to on my side 😮💨
Omg, I tried to get in there with almost a month planning ahead. NOPE.
You may need to find a local with whatever lifetime gold membership they sold. Bribe them to take you or something.
I had no idea it was so difficult to get in there. I signed up for the email where they will open a few times here and there, but as soon as the mail is sent, the reservations are gobbled up by the bots.
I wish you all the luck.
It’s gonna be 3 years at least. I doubt I’d be getting the full experience visiting during the tariffs anyways.
thx for the heads up!
This is true of people in general. While comfortable enough, or able to rationalize the discomfort away, people tend to not want to change. It takes a large shove to get people to act. Having a huge and diverse country with lots of built-in disconnects doesn’t help.
Having a huge and diverse country with lots of built-in disconnects doesn’t help.
Are you saying that diversity in a disconnected society can create more opportunities for conflict?
It can, especially when there are systems in place to play upon those differences and fan flames, even create fires that wouldn’t naturally erupt. Diversity is powerful, but can be used for good or bad purposes.
Totally. But yea the context of a disconnected society is important.
It affects me personally that you used the wrong form of “effect/affect”.
I hope your comment effects a correction.
“Anarchists celebrate and say let’s keep it that way”
Not a fan, but props to him for not caving (so far).
Why are Democrats trying to make deals with fascists is the real headline.
TBF it is their job attend legislative sessions. I agree with the spirit of your comment.
To answer your question… clearly the weren’t trying that hard.
I disagree. I would argue that their job is to represent their constituents. Sometimes that might involve attending legislative sessions. Other times that might involve intentionally not engaging with the opposition party, if that is in the best interests of the constituents.
Well now you just sound impossible to please and completely ignorant of your own civic system.
Sorry.
I’m neither. I want the opposition party to be an opposition party when its important to do so, like it is now.
That means not trying to find common ground with fascists.
That’s what they’re doing. I’ll be the first to gripe the DNC as a whole but the way you’re mischaracterizing things is not helpful.
As per the article:
Democrats have continued to assert that their votes—which are needed to clear the Senate’s 60-vote threshold—are contingent on the bill including key health care provisions, particularly a permanent extension of enhanced Affordable Care Act (ACA) tax credits that have helped millions of middle-class families afford coverage. Without action, those subsidies will expire at year’s end, raising premiums just as Americans begin signing up for 2026 plans in November.
Democrats also want to reverse $1 trillion in cuts to Medicaid that Republicans enacted unilaterally this summer, eliminate new work requirements for that program, block the White House from clawing back funds previously approved by Congress, and restore funding for medical research. But they have focused their demands on the ACA subsidies.
Its not a mischaracterization to say I don’t agree with what the Democrats are doing. They shouldn’t be negotiating to keep the government open. Period. They can stop things from happening by shutting the thing down and preventing the real day to day damage. Don’t open it back till after the midterms, and sure as shit don’t do anything that Republicans will spin to help themselves.
I’ve been through two shut downs/ near shutdowns as a freddie. Its fine. Shut it down.
Fuck MAGA
Shut it down!
What did anyone expect anything different?
Yes, I expected Democrats to spinelessly cave. Pleasantly surprised so far, though there’s still time.
Get ready for the coup.
What do they need a coup for? They control the whole damn thing.
The coup is us kicking them out of power.
Genuine question, can’t they just…not shut down?
Better question: can’t we just fire the government and just live free?
No. Someone may correct me if I’m wrong but they have an agreed debt ceiling and without an agreement raising it they’re essentially out of money to fund federal stuff. I mean not really, but they are.
It’s not like they honor the budget after they pass it anyways. Trump just comes in and says he’s not paying it and the Republicans let him. Why bother with any deal like that
Republicans want to believe they’re the party of Fiscal Responsibility. They need at least some evidence to that affect, or else they lose their own perception of themselves. The debt ceiling is one of those.
They lost this a long time ago. At best, it is just a vestigial of the Republican party. A lame excuse everyone knows is a lie that they will trot out every once in awhile when they still find the need to show off their virtue against an opponent.
Yes, that’s all correct. They still need to believe it about themselves.
