"Pete #Hegseth’s big, urgent military summit will just be a “pep rally” for what he calls the “warrior ethos.” "

  • tidderuuf@lemmy.world
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    It’s probably a good time for those generals and admirals to discuss how they will overthrow the soon to be despot.

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      The military is a machine, not a person. You point, click, and tell them what to shoot. That’s it. They don’t do political policy.

      And really, that’s a good thing if you think about it. Like it or not, Trump and his flunkies are in the White House because the majority of voters put them there, so when you get down to it, it’s the majority’s job to get rid of him if they don’t like him.

      I mean, do you really want the military to go, ‘hey, we know y’all elected this guy, but we don’t like him, so we’re going to just get rid of him’? Just because they’d be getting rid of a guy we don’t like this time doesn’t make it a good thing.

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        I mean, do you really want the military to go, ‘hey, we know y’all elected this guy, but we don’t like him, so we’re going to just get rid of him’? Just because they’d be getting rid of a guy we don’t like this time doesn’t make it a good thing.

        No, but I do want them to refuse to follow illegal orders.

            • BigPotato@lemmy.world
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              To tell the Sec Def “No, I won’t be showing up” is deny a lawful order. Your boss can tell you to be somewhere.

              If the US Military starts to play political games, like denying an otherwise lawful order because it came from an asshole, they’re breaking different parts of their own internal rules.

              That said, if the civilian arm in charge of the military, e.g. the executive branch, decides to say that the Army can, and should, unilaterally bomb unidentified boats in their region for ‘defence purposes’, that’s now a lawful order so you can’t deny that one.

              And as an average joe, you can beat the rap (in thirty years when they pardon you) but you can’t beat the ride. Enjoy your DD.

          • Auli@lemmy.ca
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            I mean yes. Just because the president says something doesn’t make it legal. Now everything he says might be legal but who knows.

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          Read the entire oath. You are also sworn to obey the orders of the President and the officers appointed over you.

      • Baron Von J@lemmy.world
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        Trump and his flunkies are in the White House because the majority of voters put them there,

        Incorrect. A majority of voters selected other candidates. Trump received 49.8% of the vote.

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        If you really think the US military is just a machine then I would like you to do a little research and find out what all the recent 3 and 4 star generals are doing after they retire. I can tell you they are not sippin pina coladas on Coronado.

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        Yes. When they tell thr military “hey were throwing out the rules you kill who we tell you no matter what”

        I expect them to immediately kill the threat in front of them. Not dance with them and try to negotiate.