Radosław Sikorski upbraids Moscow for being “incapable of living in peace” with its neighbors following a series of incursions into NATO airspace.
Russia shouldn’t complain at the United Nations if its missiles or aircraft are shot down after entering NATO airspace, Polish Foreign Minister Radosław Sikorski warned Moscow on Monday.
Sikorski was speaking at an emergency session of the U.N. Security Council in New York. The summit was convened after three Russian military jets entered Estonian airspace for 12 minutes on Sept. 19 before being repelled by Italian F-35s representing NATO.
“I have only one request to the Russian government: If another missile or aircraft enters our space without permission, deliberately or by mistake, and gets shot down and the wreckage falls on NATO territory, please don’t come here to whine about it,” Sikorski said. “You have been warned.”
Not to be outdone, Sikorski sent a further barb Moscow’s way in New York: “We know you don’t care for international law, and you are incapable of living in peace with your neighbors. Your insane nationalism contains a lust for domination that will not cease until you realize that the age of empires is over and that your empire will not be rebuilt.”
I kinda expected ww3 would be started by China instead of russian idiocracy
I assumed the USA would do something monumentally stupid.
This is a given. The only question is where? Venezuela? Russia? Strait of Taiwan? West Philippines sea? Greenland? Iran? North Korea? California? There’s really no telling where they’ll take out their dick and start helicoptering it.
We’re busy invading ourselves at the moment, give us some time.
Guaranteed with the throwbacks in charge right now.
That was on the table too. But only since trump came to office in 2016.
Why? China’s not operating an expansionist military. Who would they even start it with?
Russia’s been feuding with its neighbors over it’s western border for… centuries.
Well firstly Tibet would probably disagree, but perhaps Taiwan, the USA, anybody in the South China Sea, on the Indian border…
China’s rhetoric has been very clear for decades, further expansion is going to be pursued. Whether that’s semi-peaceful like cracking down on Hong Kong, or direct invasion - it’s a question of ‘when’, not ‘if’.
Hopefully no impending major conflicts could provide them a helpful smokescreen to make moves under, while potential adversaries are tied-up and unable to project power…
Well firstly Tibet would probably disagree
You can take that up with the Tang Dynasty. Tibet’s been a part of China longer than Delaware has been a part of the United States.
China’s rhetoric has been very clear for decades
They’ve been screaming pacifism and globalism from the rooftops since Nixon visited.
Whether that’s semi-peaceful like cracking down on Hong Kong, or direct invasion
Hong Kong wasn’t peaceful. The protests erupted with the killing of two municipal police officers. It was the Chinese J6.
And I encourage you to find out why they were protesting. A Taiwanese national had fled to Hong Kong after murdering his pregnant girlfriend. Chinese authorities were extraditing the suspect back to Taiwan, when student protests began in opposition to the extradition process.
Hurr durr China bad
Defending west taiwans Rebellion against the rightful democratic government in taiwan i see
the rightful democratic government in taiwan
My man’s a regular supplicant.
The fact that you think China is more imperialistic than Russia, US or Israel, is kinda wild.
Never said that lol
I didn’t say anything about Taiwan either.
But about west taiwan. mocking that it supposedly always put down as the bad guy while the contrary is the case, which is what your mockery is about
All I mocked was western liberals constant need to demonize China. I didn’t say shit about Taiwan
I’m mocking your inability to see things around you and thinking China is worse than Russia, who has been more aggressive and imperialistic to almost all of its western neighbors but sure, CHINA is the one who would start ww3.
Meanwhile Israel is attacking every neighbor around it and US is actively encouraging a genocide but sure CHINA is the one who would start a ww3.
On top of all that, US is over hear illegally attacking South American vessels on international waters in addition everything else it’s doing but sure CHINA is the one who would start a ww3.
You see how braindead the China hate sounds?
Reddit Brain is never more apparent than on the subject of China. Not even Iran or North Korea get as much hate, and they at least have reactionary governments deserving of serious criticism.
Westerners simply cannot accept that they reverse mortgaged away their industrial core and need to blame their largest trading partner for all their problems.
In fairness, the same shit happened with Japan and Korea in the 80s. And with Latin America in the 60s and 70s. As soon as we start importing large volumes of consumer goods from your country, the national media tells us to hate you.
I don’t think China has that many nukes tbh.
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t really want 600 nukes raining down on me, but it’s mostly been a US vs Russia pissing contest.
If russias army and navy is in that bad condition, i do not want to know how they are maintaining as many nukes as US with less than 1/10th of the budged
That’s the neat part.jpg
BRICS. It is China too
This is a weak response from NATO. 19 drones and 2 jets flying into NATO airspace should have been enough to draw NATO into the war. Saying “hey dont do that again or their will be bare min consequences” is a nothing statement. Shooting down Russian Jets that have been in your airspace for 12mins should have been the default response at this point.
Less talk and more action please.
NATO member Turkey shot down a Russian jet some years ago, and the planet didn’t perish in a nuclear war, so we know we can do that.
If it’s one thing the dicktasters… I mean dictators… of today do a lot of at a regular basis, it’s whine. It’s the mark of a little man. Pathetic.
Hey! We dicktasters don’t like being associated with authoritarians
'How dare they not do what they are told? They ha dit coming."
This is you rn. Sounds a lot like a wife beater.
The Russians claimed they have not been over NATO territory. If they come again, shoot them down and look where they land. Case closed.
shoot them down and look where they land.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Russian_Sukhoi_Su-24_shootdown (map at ‘The shootdown’)
Doesn’t work reliably for the Turkish incident. The crash site determines the path, but both crash sites are in Syria.
The Russians claimed they have not been over NATO territory.
Only because they believe it should be their territory.
Debris from plains that are shot down don’t land directly below where they were shot down.
This. And it is not really predictable where they go, depends on which parts get damaged and how
That may be true, but while parts and pieces of downed aircraft may land over a mile or two from an incident based on altitude (they are no longer flying, they are falling), most airspace incursions are not happening just over the border but further inside the defending territory. It takes time for responding fighter jets to scramble and confront the invasive aircraft. This is occurring while traveling at high speed. So the likely answer is that they are not a mile inside of the airspace, but tens of miles at least. It should be no trouble to discern over where the incursion took place.
I have this sneaking suspicion that this response might be in the Russian “plan”. I have a feeling that the goal is to show that America won’t lift a finger to stop them, and thereby break NATO and badly damage US power. If Poland downs a Russian jet, and Trump says “Hey! You guys have to be nice to Russia” it will read as Russia calling NATO’s bluff while maintaining just enough plausible deniability to likely avoid even European countries from pushing for a real response.
brought to you by the same master planners that thought they’d take Ukraine in a month
You mean 3 days
Not only that, but somehow since Russia is an innocent victim and they know America won’t stop them, they might as well go ahead and try a ground invasion and see what happens
More words, to be followed by more incursions without action. We should have started shooting down Russian air-junk right from the first invasion in 2014. Historians will not be kind about floppy dicked Europe/NATO after it’s too late….
Nah, Poland is the one nation in Europe that’s itching for a fight with Moscow. They’ve just been holding back.
They’re ready to send troops to the frontlines of Ukraine last I heard.
Without action? Come on. Drones went over Poland, shot down. Poland isn’t really holding back, but it can’t charge blindy either.
I am also sick of the inaction. I hope they are a real warning and not more words.
I really like this line though and I will be repeating it to anyone who is listening, “incapable of living in peace”.
Good for Poland. I’m tired of these Putinganda-fuckers “accidently” sending incursions into their neighbours’ territories
I wonder how the vatniks will twist this into NATO being the bad guys again.
I can see it now “more nato aggression! Of course russia needed to defend itself by invading a sovereign country!”
“What was russia doing in NATO airspace?” “They just got lost! Jesus! Cant you take a joke?”
Vlad. Vlad. Don’t be bad. Putin. Putin. Stop that shootin’.
Well that’s swell and all, but you can’t say that not do it. You can’t make that kind of bluff to a bully like Russia and not back it up. Cuz if you do back down that’s just emboldening the bully. They will view it as weakness and an invitation to go further. If they don’t shoot down the next plane that crosses their border Russia will escalate significantly.
Ruzzian incursions and aggression will not stop until Vladimir Pootang grows tall, and develops an adult penis. Never have leaders with small pee pees, folks. Oh, wait a minute America…not like THAT !