Related, “Laura Ingraham Commends ICE Agent Who Threw Democratic Candidate To the Ground: ‘Good Work’” (arc)
e; Also, she was on a recent episode of the Even More News podcast - https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=wOcxNqE_bCQ (rss)
Reformists will always fail
In the long run, so do revolutionaries.
Did anyone else watch Kat’s video of being “thrown” to the ground and think it was more like a push followed by loss of balance? To me, “thrown to the ground” means you give them more downward force than just gravity.
e; so it turns out there have been multiple times Kat’s been put on the ground by ICE agents at this facility and I’m not 100% sure this video is documenting the same specific occasion that Ingraham was talking about, but still - (end of edit)
https://bsky.app/profile/katmabu.bsky.social/post/3lz6sxfky3s2t
no.
The clip you showed there was what I was thinking of. I saw it as part of a much larger video posted by Kat, and I wasn’t sure that was the “throw” everyone else was referencing. It’s definitely that officer’s fault she went to the ground. He threw her laterally, causing her to fall backwards.
So she wasn’t “thrown” just thrown laterally? Wut?
“thrown to the ground” vs. thrown (really, pushed) laterally. Yep.
It may seem minor. If someone said they were punched, and you watched their video and they were slapped hard, you’d wonder why they were sloppy in the characterization. It doesn’t make slapping good.
We know what you’re doing. Just putting that out there
STFU.
Should be zero force applied.
You bootlicking POS.
That’s your gripe? That’s what you’re splitting hairs on? The angle of force delineating “shove” vs. “push”? What a weak-as-fuck whinge.
One would think most people possess a cognitive filter to keep that level of stupid from escaping the bounds of their internal monologue. Well, maybe a decade ago, one would… 🤔
No, I share the main gripe as everyone else. It’s also important to me that my “side” be as accurate as possible. I am raising a side issue.
I’m sure you and others have the capacity to discuss more than one thing at once.
You’re raising a non-issue. She was assaulted, can you live with that terminology?
Of course. She was shoved in way that caused her to fall backwards. I have been pretty clear about that.
There is at least one where she was lifted off of her feet and thrown to the ground.
Then that must be what everyone is talking about. If you ever find it, post here.
Bootlicker
I wish her the best of luck, but seriously, I’m to the point now where I sincerely think a clean break from the DNC and the creation of a new party is going to be a better move. Get all the progressives to do that, and you’ve got the nascent core of a new party that actually aligns with the interests of the vast majority of citizens.
Better for building a principled platform, sure, but way worse if we actually want that platform to win. Basically every new successful party in this country emerged when one of the existing parties completely dominated the other.
If we want a progressive party, step one is to keep the Republicans from winning anywhere. Destroy the Republicans, and you give politically savvy progressives the confidence to vote progressive without risking abject fascism.
Yeah and you’re definitely the first person to ever think this…
Oh wait.
Who shit in your coffee this morning?
The fascists proved that it’s easier to appropriate an existing tool than build a new one from scratch.
I think I disagree because there are just so many ridiculous roadblocks to ballot access for third parties in different states, plus even if you can overcome that and win you’ll run into a bunch of institutional roadblocks if you don’t caucus with a “major” party (e.g. if you want a seat on one of those bipartisan committees that hash out 90% of the discussion on a lot of boring-but-important stuff before it even gets to the legislature), but I can definitely see where you’re coming from
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