He was not a debater, he was a propagandist.
CK was a pussy who got his ass whipped every time he left his faschist echo chamber and debated someone with more than two brain cells
As someone not from the US, do you have examples?
OP’s video is a sterling example.
Cant wait for his next debate
I hate that most people seem to be unaware of the Gish Gallop.
Ben Shapiro does the same thing, as did “Dr” Dino (an evolution denier).
That was a fun read
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallopI was in middle school when Adam Sandler’s Billy madison came out. The year following, we had debate class.
Anything remotely approximating a gish-gallop was immediately responded to with the ben stein quote
“what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.”
Im disappointed this did not just become the standard shut down.
That’s awesome. I’ve heard that clip played for so many things over the years, and honestly, I wish public political “debates” would push a buzzer, cut the mic of the offender and play that clip. Being able to spot and name a Gish Gallop should be in every American’s toolbox and maybe a humorous way to teach it would be that clip. :)
I’ve never been in debate class or on a debate team, but I’m well aware that what is often called a “debate” isn’t anything like what a debate should be. Most of it seems to be about who is able to craft and get in a well-scripted zinger, but one that doesn’t come off like it’s well-scripted.
Like Ronnie Raygun’s “there you go again”. I mean, that’s the classic case of this kind of thing, and even today, conservatives that remember that think it’s a real counterpoint. When it just sounds like something barely evolved past the playground’s “I know what you are, but what am I?”
And people, even with the rise of the Internet, are still able to get away with the Gish Gallop and have people think the abuser is really smart and a master debater.
Call him by his name so folks can better shame him. Kent Hovind is a bitch less whoreson who has willingly and knowingly exposed children to pedophilic sexual predators.
Wow, for some reason, I thought “Dr” Dino/Kent Hovind had died.
Nope fucker is still alive and causing trouble, though his influence is still well and truly weakened. He also probably isn’t far off from getting shot or ending up in prison again.
TIL
Like I’ve seen it in action and have had to counter it but never knew there was a formal name for it.
If y’all aren’t familiar yet, the ‘Alt-right Playbook’ videos on Youtube explain all this really well and explain what we have to continue to deal with
There are more „episodes“ from this event on YouTube. They are all pretty great. Kirk seems to have problems debating with people who actually know their stuff and don’t let themselves be tricked.
Proof of how bad of a “debater” he was.
With all of the game/competition shows out there they should have a “Debate Club” or “Celebrity Debate Club” which could possibly pass down critical thinking to the viewer.
I didn’t know who kirk was and this disheveled looking British kid was my introduction to him. What a lad!! Multiple mic drop moments
Classic fascist playbook archetype. The man of action that appeals to tradiction, rejects modernity and fosters fear from those that are different.
Spreading false, bigoted and genocidal propagonda is not debating. That’s called selling out your humanity and sucking satan’s dick for money
Btw people need to stop talking about charlie kirk, or else we will keep reminding everyone of how evil and hateful he was every time they mention him.
Let him rest in piss or we will keep shitting on himSteamrolling an argument is honestly a legit tactic used in arguing sometimes. A shity and arrogant one though maybe.
If you are in debate club and the goal is “win debate”, fine tactic.
If you are doing basically anything else?
Imthe fact that any kind of offical debate can be “won” by shouting over people is in itself a sign that the whole affair is worthless.
Grading on a curve, sadly he was much better than a lot of the other right wing personalities.
He at least let them have a mic even in his own forum, which is more than you can say for most right wingers.
Consider it rejected.
Guy never won a single argument as a result of not answering questions in kind.
An asshole who picked fights all the time finally gets one.