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      2 days ago

      I’m really struggling to get through this video. " Men are in a crisis and no one really cares"

      The Fuckin feminists care. The patriarchy, and how it’s all been set up, is exactly the problem that caused all of this. The tight gender roles that need to fit certain models… That’s what feminism is here to fight.

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        Depends on your brand of feminism. Sounds like that’s about to become a no true Scottsman argument.

        Where is all the care when I see women choosing the bear? Where is all the care when women go on TV saying men are useless and we don’t need men then laughing about it? What specifically are you talking about when you say the patriarchy is to blame? Cuz that just sounds like things I hear in the video that you struggled to get through.

        Men are lonely? That’s men’s fault! Cool, guess I’ll go kick my own ass? This is why the left is completely losing men as a demographic.

        And I’m saying this all as a registered Democrat in a loving relationship who is not lonely.

        And I’ve said this all before the election, got down voted for it, and then lo and behold a lot of men shifted to Trump, especially in the younger demos, which have traditionally been more progressive.

        You ask the average man if they feel feminists care about them and I doubt you’ll get a favorable response.

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          “where is the care when women are talking about themselves and their problems”

          The care is when they point out that gender roles are stupid and that everyone should go to therapy.

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            18 hours ago

            So a video gets linked filled with examples of people who would proudly claim to be feminist demonstrate zero empathy for men, you somehow struggled to watch it for some unknown reason (maybe because it made you uncomfortable because it doesn’t fit your mental narrative) and instead of acknowledging the existence of these bad actors in your golden concept of gender eradicating feminism, you simply blame men for not being in therapy.

            You are the exact problem I’m describing on the left. We’re never winning another election at this point if we’re going to be this clueless and obstinate.

            Chef’s kiss.

            I mean it almost sounds like an abusive relationship to me. Look what you made me do! I wouldn’t have said that if you had more therapy!

            And no, I didn’t hear any of those people arguing men are useless and unnecessary arguing for the eradication of gender norms. Just the eradication of men in general.

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              18 hours ago

              I guess I can’t be accountable for the people claiming to be feminists who are actually misandrists. And you can’t be accountable for the anti-lonliness folks who are actually misogynists.

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                15 hours ago

                In general, yeah, as my friend recently told me, “We do what we can, and that’s all anyone can do.”

                We can all vocalize our concerns, but we should also call out bad actors when they crop up inside whatever faction.

                Misogyny and Misandry are both very real and two sides of the same unempathetic coin, but I have to believe they are the hyper vocal minority seeking to drag everyone else into their misery with them and whip everyone into a frenzy.

                Content people don’t complain on social media, they are too busy being content; living a life of love with their loved ones.

                Kinda like restaurants. Most people don’t leave a bad review, they just don’t come back. Most people don’t leave a good review, they just come back repeatedly.