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    This is not about social media bans, it’s against the corrupt government. It’s being reframed. If you think about it, if the only problem was social media ban, they’d just all get vpns. They’re not stupid. They’re trying to frame it as silly kids, (because they’re all gen z and Gen alpha, in their school uniforms, so as to be less likely to be shot) who can’t live without social media. But it’s not, it’s protesting deep government corruption. If word gets out that it’s a protest against government corruption, other people facing similar oppression, may become emboldened, so it’s being buried.

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      Yep. Running the standard playbook. They wouldn’t do it, if it wasn’t so effective. Today they’d be calling the Boston Tea Party a bunch of anti-caffeine health nuts.

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    For anyone out of the loop (from the AP / quoted in the article) :

    Why are people protesting in Nepal?

    The demonstrations—called the protest of Gen Z—began after the government blocked platforms, including Facebook, X and YouTube, saying the companies had failed to register and submit to government oversight.

    But they spiraled to reflect broader discontent about a lack of opportunities and corruption.

    In particular, many young people are angry that the children of political leaders—so-called Nepo Kids—seem to enjoy luxury lifestyles and numerous advantages while most youth struggle to find work.

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      Typical Newsweek, I’ve seen several people who have worked in Nepal say that corruption was spiraling out of control and people have been livid about it for months. The protests were already ramping up, which is why social media platforms were cut off, so videos about the corruption and investigations and means to plan protests were cut off. The “they didn’t register in time” excuse is for the government to save face internationally.

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        Several social media companies registered in time just fine and weren’t cut off so no, I think that’s just an excuse for the protestors.

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          ‘registered’ just means ‘Will censor information about government corruption for profit’

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            how dumb can you be? You think people that are protesting over social media bans are actually cognizant of the actual effects of social media? or what the law actually entailed? Look at the protests in the US over TikTok. People just want social media, they don’t care the effects.

            The truth of the matter is (before all the killings) is that all the ‘social media companies’ had to do was fill out a fucking form and they didn’t do it. Then people pissed about missing their feeds went out and blamed it on the government, when it was completely the social media companies’ faults. Sure, it sounds like the government was doing a lot of other shit, but acting like the government didn’t give the companies time to register is just an absolute lie, there were several companies that managed just fine and they didn’t get blocked. If the goal was blocking social media completely then they wouldn’t have bothered with the registration, they just would have blocked.

            People need to stop giving social media companies the benefit of the doubt. Now the situation is so out of control that people get to blame the government blocking social media as a reason to not do any sort of regulation against these tech companies in other countries. Now when a law in X country pops up saying “we need to regulate FB, TikTok, etc” you’re going to get people referencing Nepal as a reason not to, even if FB/etc are literally causing genocides.

            To be clear: this is NOT a commentary on whatever other bs the government is doing or the protesters are protesting. This is ONLY a comment on the OP i replied to stating

            which is why social media platforms were cut off, so videos about the corruption and investigations and means to plan protests were cut off. The ‘they didn’t register in time’ excuse is for the government to save face internationally.

            which is just a bald faced lie since they didn’t cut off any social media that literally filled out a form.

            • Err, the law requiring social media to register also has very broad provisions for government mandated removal of content from these social media. So it’s not exactly unlikely that that would have been the next step after the registration deadline had passed.

              You are completely right that social media needs some form of regulation to avoid their nasty sides btw. But that’s not what this law was seemingly intent on doing.

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      Bear in mind that the riot in Nepal only started after the peaceful student protests was shot at by the police first. The No Kings protest hasn’t been tried to be violently quelled to warrant a public riot, yet.

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        You’re right, this is a half-measure. But I’ll be banned for speaking my mind, so we’ll stick with this.

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          Some of us can’t do anything because we’ve got people depending on us to provide. Believe me, if there was ever a time where I could be more active, it would be right fucking now. But unfortunately, that kind of protest is the most I can do at the moment.

          Put your money where your mouth is, go out and find those who are able to do more, and stop vilifying those who can’t afford to.

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            Right. Nobody in history who ever fought a righteous cause had a family or anything to lose. They were all just Disney characters whose victory was guaranteed because they were the good guys.

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        I highly doubt the fascist tRUMP and his like-minded cronies give a shit about people waving signs once every few months or so.
        Or any form of peaceful protests.
        They are probably laughing their voluminous man tits off about it.

        You’ll need to either get violent.
        Or shutdown certain systems, such as roads, on a countrywide scale for extended periods of time before they even think about giving a shit.

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          I will respectfully reject your suggestion to turn to violence and encourage others in this thread to also not be incited to do so.

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            Ha, there is no incitement because most americans are too complacent and mollycoddled to do anything. Maybe they’ll go for a walk once every few months and wave a sign, but that’s it.
            The orange buffoon knows this, which is why he gets away with all his shit.

            Anyways, what about the other option I mentioned?

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              Your first proposal was to use violence, so let’s explore that thought.

              Would you take pride in living in a nation where political opponents are assassinated when half the country dissents? This doesn’t sound like a better society than what we have today.

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                And you are dodging the question even after I told you why I think mass violence will never happen.

                “Would I take pride blah blah blah?”
                That’s, frankly, a daft question. No, obviously, I would not take pride in that.
                Christ, no sane person would take pride in that. Silly.

                However, do I think it is sometimes necessary, yes. Furthermore I think it was necessary for something (that’s something. Not necessarily burning buildings etc) to happen in the us since around 2016, though it was demonstrably broken before, but I’ll stick with 2016 as that was when the obese imbecile was first voted in.
                “Why? Blah.” you’ll ask. It’s because it is now blatantly obvious that if the us population will vote in a person so obviously corrupt AND so obviously compromised then the whole system is just totally broken, and needs a serious rethink.
                Also the Bush jr presidency wasn’t exactly great either. It was terrible for a lot of countries.

                Anyways, again, what about the other option I mentioned?

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                  I strongly object to inciting violence, in particular strongly object to your suggestion that I, or others in this thread, should use violence against Donald J. Trump. It’s absolutely not “necessary,” as you’ve stated. Despite your attempts to change my mind, I wholeheartedly disagree with your position on using violence.

                  Peaceful protests and civil disobedience are perfectly acceptable and effective means of expressing dissent non-violently.

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    Russia and china do it better, they control social media behind the scenes, if you ban it its too obvious

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    So some wise and just leader will take over now and fix everything… right?

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      Maybe. The next leader hopefully understands that people are watching and waiting with torches apparently. Might make them think twice about engaging in corruption.

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        Historically speaking, that will just make the next leader give many powers to the military in order to “bring peace” so whatever happened to the last one doesn’t happen to him.

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        If those people are able to organize peaceful elections now and the military will not get involved it will be truly amazing achievement and an inspiration for the rest of the world.

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          Neither their own military, nor any other external power. Considering their position, it’s likely that China will try to influence the results