• Skullgrid@lemmy.world
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    22 days ago

    It’s fucking called prevension.

    These kinds of expenses has two reasons behind them :

    1. It’s the kind thing to do, to provide food for hungry children and orphans and the needy
    2. It’s CHEAPER to give these fucking people the basic necesary things, because if you don’t, then they will steal it, and now you have to pay for bread, AND a broken window, AND the fucking jail for them.
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      21 days ago

      I’ve been saying for years now, you can pay for police and jails or you can pay for social assistance and schools, but one way or another, you will pay.

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        21 days ago

        I’ve come to the conclusion that a lot of people deeply resent supporting society, and would rather have a solution that makes poor people suffer more.

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          21 days ago

          Yes, but it’s worth it to make them say it out loud, rather than letting them hide behind excuses like fiscal responsibility or the economy.

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      22 days ago

      It means it’s often cheaper for society to intervene and help young people before they experience trauma and grow up to be troubled people who end up costing society a lot more money.

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      Who is going to pay for it if a country doesn’t have a foster care/orphanage programme? The children and orphans, with their lives.

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        Not only that, it effectively takes potential people out of the workforce. It also gives people no reason not to be deviants leading to higher expenditure on enforcement and incarceration. Not to mention potential higher crime rates.

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      If society pays for things that eliminate individuals’ needs before they begin to suffer from them, society doesn’t have to pay to incarcerate or rehabilitate them when they turn to destructive behavior to cope with or reduce that suffering.

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    21 days ago

    I will pay for these social programs, IF the government give us tax transparency. I don’t trust my government nearly enough for them to not do some sort of corruption. Gotta know where the money went.

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      The concepts work a lot better if people are active participants in the governance of their communities instead of the government being some separate entity that dictates rules from on high.

      Government cannot be for the people unless it is made of the people, and that is the largest flaw of our current system. Our government is not made of the people, it is made of the ruling class which only seeks to exploit people for power.