But it’s fucking Tesla 0 accountability
Greentheonly, the hacker who helped recover the data in the Miami case, continues to probe Tesla Autopilot computers from a basement workshop strewn with circuit boards and soldering equipment.
That work is only becoming harder, he said, as Tesla is tightening the controls over access to vehicle crash data. “If an accident happened today like this, I won’t be able to extract the data,” he said.
If only we had a functioning regulatory system that would mandate access to this data.
Don’t post pictures of text. Blind people cant read it. Just copy and paste.
Also, I was siiting here in the dark with dark mode and couldn’t even read it because I got blinded like staring into 1000 suns.
Tesla deleted crash information to bot be held liable. So they tampered with evidence, a criminal offense.
Now the investigation needs to start into who deleted that data and on whose orders and all those people will be sent to jail, right?
Right?
You know what, if a company can be a person with the same rights and privileges thanks to citizens United, why can’t a company be jailed? Let’s just say Tesla broke the law and must spend the appropriate amount of time behind bars, unable to do business.
But… They didn’t delete the data. The hacker found the data. It was there.
They lied under oath. Aka perjury. Also illegal.
As I understood the article, they DID delete the data, just that the hacker found it anyways
How and why cars need regular access to the Internet I’ll never know.
Do you want realtime traffic updates, live charger status, streaming entertainment, software updates, emergency crash response, Wi-Fi hotspot, remote alarm status and controls, remote telematics? If yes to any of those, then you have your answer.
Of course, simply having a connection opens it up for privacy abuses, just like a smartphone, there are number of reasons why consumers would want a connected vehicle.
What if the answer to a lot of those is either, “why would I want that?” or “we all have a device that dies that already”.
- realtime traffic updates - phone
- live charger status - phone
- streaming entertainment - phone
- software updates - not without express approval
- emergency crash response - I see some value here
- Wi-Fi hotspot - why
- Remote alarm status and controls - no
- remote telematics - absolutely not
For sure, I agree the phone integration is a better solution and could easily take the place of any connection requirements for the vehicle, was just providing insight into why any consumer might justify it.
Why the manufacturers push it would be a totally different answer…
Why the manufacturers push it
- realtime traffic updates - subscription revenue
- live charger status - subscription revenue
- streaming entertainment - subscription revenue
- software updates - remove features, introduce bugs or send advertising so you buy a new car
- emergency crash response - mandatory by law in eu
- Wi-Fi hotspot - subscription revenue
- Remote alarm status and controls - subscription revenue
- remote telematics - they sell it (the user manual for the seat mii explicitly says that)
Exactly
So are you one of those flying down the road staeing at your phone.
No, your car has an external screen for your phone, so you look at your car the same way you would with an integrated system, but the connectivity comes from your phone.
“it’s all computerrrr”
… no. I don’t really have a need for most of that. And some of it is downright dangerous.
I saw the video of the dashcam, the driver is speeding at night in an unfamiliar country road and he’s playing the phone. The “autopilot” disengaged dozens of times that night due to distracted driving, yet that asshole is continuing to override the speed limit while watching that fucking phone.
Did I understood right that the killer was able to settle for a monetary compensation instead of doing decades of prison for manslaughter?
The family should decide. If they prefer millions and they’re prison abolitionists, that should be the result.
The “article” is literally just one paragraph?
No its paywalled. A 20 minute read or so.
$100 says they had autopilot on and it was tesla’s fault.