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    There’s so much bullshit with smartphones now that make them a pain to use, I’m honestly considering at this point to just get a flipphone and buy separate devices for the things it can do. Get a camera, MP3 player, and portable DVD player and live life the way people did 20 years ago.

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      You can still use AOSP to make your own phone, but you’ll just have to built your own apps too, since eventually, all of google play apps aren’t gonna work on degoogled Android.

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        Not a big deal, considering that FOSSIFY project offers all the basics you’d need for a degoogled phone: call app, messaging, contacts, calculator, calendar, gallery, etc. F-droid also has a good selection of apps, though most people, me included, will still need whatsapp one way or another. At least that thing doesn’t need any of Google’s “essential” apps.

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    they court the nerds with cool tech, then ditch them whenever their shit takes off and the nerds are an irrelevant minority.

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    There are phosh based phones and over time more people will hopefully switch to them, use them, and work on making them better. Phosh-based phones are currently are not as usable as something like GOS, but with Google challenging itself to become more and more enshitified in the interest in marginal tiny profit gains (even if it destroys their brand over the long term) nerds needs to band together prepare for an alternative. Part of this is going to be advocating for Apps that work in Linux mobile Phosh environments and just refusing to use containerized apks and part of it is going to be people doing what they can to support native linux phone apps that work well in Phosh.

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    Wait what ? Side loading blocked

    Well it was a good run, time to look into custom roms…

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    Don’t forget rock solid app gets an unexpected update 3 years later and now is jammed with ads and offers an ad free subscription at $14/week

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      Yeah app purchases sure went to shit, didn’t they? Sorry turns out buying an app one time for a small fee isn’t good enough, we need you to buy it again every month.

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          Dude fuck that noise.

          I bought a lifetime copy of hex edit like 30 years ago. 20 years later I needed something and the dude answered and sent me a new code.

          Fucking rock on hex edit brother!!!

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      I’m glad I heard of Discord’s plan to add ads to their Android app beforehand so I had the chance to disable updates. It’s annoying that Android keeps reminding me there’s an update available, but it’s less annoying than ads.

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        Blocking basically all ads on your phone is trivially easy.

        1. Find “Private DNS” (or something similar) in your settings
        2. Set it to dns.adguard-dns.com

        And that’s really it. There are other ad-blocking dns providers out there, and they all use slightly different block lists. I like adguard because their blocklist is less aggressive than others I’ve tried, and I’d rather an ad or two get through than for something legitimate to stop working.

        You can also set it up as your dns provider in your router to block ads on your entire network. People tend to like to self-host adguard or pihole for that, but as long as you don’t care about a dashboard or manual dns entries, using a free dns is as easy as it gets and is very effective. I self-host as a hobby and I still just use adguard’s public dns.

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    iOS jailbreaking used to be incredible too.

    I guess it might still be for those who slipped into the “window” to do it, but I have no clue what Cydia looks like these days.

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      Cydia is practically dead, replaced by Sileo or Zebra, and most tweaks are paid now.

      I miss when people did stuff for a hobby or for fun. Literally everything wants your money these days it seems.

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        Oh that sucks. It’s par for iOS though.

        Yeah, me too. So what if apps were simpler than they are now… that would be nice.

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          It truly was a great time when the scene was really bumping. Maybe one day we’ll pendulum swing back to something along that peak jailbreak scene.

          Maybe…

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            You made me wonder if there could ever be an avenue for Apple to support this, especially with Google just getting worse and worse with android.

            Apple makes a ton of money on just hardware sales. Imagine if the next iPhone had an option that would delete iOS, possibly blow some kind of security fuse in the CPU that voids your warranty (because they still have to be dicks), and reboot into an unlocked bootloader. They could boost sales and be even shittier to Google by rolling their own distro of Linux/Android/BSD for the phones with solid drivers for everything.

            That veered off into fantasy land immediately, since that is not how Apple does things. And they do have services to sell too. But even if they only enabled open access on older models it could move a ton of units. Interesting to imagine.

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            I feel like iPhones had a sweet spot between the 4 and the… I dunno. A few generations after that? Where jailbreaking was rampant and incredible, and the phones are basically like the 16 now.

            Then Android had a ‘sweet spot’ after that. Their quality and UI fluidity really caught up, to the point where my old Razer Phone 2 (SD845) still feels faster than an iPhone 16.

            After that… well, I dunno where to go :(. Feels like both platforms are locking down.

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        I held onto jailbreaking till the end. I have a iPhone on iOS 17.0 and TrollStore for permanent sideloaded apps. It’s pretty awesome! There hasn’t been anything like a jailbreak or TrollStore since then. I wish I had bought an iPhone 15 on iOS 17.0 at launch so I could hold onto this as long as possible. Having a lower end iPhone I’ll probably need an upgrade in the next year or so.

        You can get a similar experience to TrollStore by paying for an Apple developer account or a third-party signing service that abuses Apple developer accounts. It seems android users may have to do a similar thing in a few years.

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        everybody could use more money. gotta be turning more and more of your life into a hustle for capital’s insatiable maw.

        so now we pay for mods.

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    This is cruel, now I feel like some kind of criminal. Who knew that the most dangerous criminal is an ordinary consumer who wants freedom…

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    For those wondering what happened, the Android Open Source Project (ASOP) launched in 2007, but started decoupling major parts of the project from the main in 2012 instead forcing them to update through Google Play store and over time restricting access to the codebase before just this year deciding to shut down the ASOP.

    In their defence, they’ve also made lots of changes to make android compatible with more devices and to make third party stores work better, but they’ve just as often made changes that intentionally harmed development of alternative android-based OS.

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      To add to this, the only redeeming quality of Android is that the Google Play Store developer account currently only costs a $25 one time fee, meanwhile the Apple App Store costs $99 per year. Google also seems a bit more permissive with its apps. You can still use an adblocker extension when you download firefox, even torrent clients are there. Apple doesn’t really allow alternative browsers, every browser is just Safari reskinned, no extensions, absolutely zero usable torrent clients whatsoever. And, there aren’t really any Tor browsers on iOS (probably because of the same reason why iOS browsers have no extensions), those that do exist seem very badly built, not officially made by the Tor Project, and some even require you to pay for it (which make sense given the $99 yearly fee).

      But you know, its capitalism and the current pricing could soon change… 👀

      (Edited phrasing for claification)

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    I’m gonna carry around my steam deck and add a USB camera module, a GPS module, and add some meshtastic radios modules, and I’m gonna daily drive it as the ultimate all-in-one device, and Mr. Google Pichai can’t stop me! xD

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    I am very happy on GrapheneOS. Even in terms of flashing it was much nicer experience than what you had to go through back in the days