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General_Effort@lemmy.world to Political Memes@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 months ago

The Dem/Rep Platform Switch is finally nearing Completion

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The Dem/Rep Platform Switch is finally nearing Completion

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General_Effort@lemmy.world to Political Memes@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 months ago
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    Fascists calling eachother communists like this on Twitter while working class people cheer them on for being so funny is just not the future I envisioned or wanted.

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      I don’t have many nice things to say about Newsom but let’s not dilute the word fascist into a generic insult eh?

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        He made being unhoused illegal.

        While I like him mocking trump I still don’t like him.

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            https://apnews.com/article/california-newsom-homeless-los-angeles-san-francisco-5b2b3aca9ca56efb444a717d278c1fd9

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                Basically made it illegal to own anything or have any sort of living space when you’re homeless, and didn’t create more shelters.

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                    So all the homeless people in those encampments were given homes?

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                Do you know what cleaning an encampment means? They are not sweeping up and and making it look nice.

                Everyone is kicked out. Any belongings they are unable to carry out get tossed.

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                    We could have avoided a lot of confusion if you started by clarifying that you think of unhoused people as less than animals.

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        Ya. Honestly, I’m getting pretty close to being done with Lemmy at this point. The way to fight extremism is not with different extremism. Between the hyper purity test Leftists, and the AI=evil absolutists, it feels like there’s never any room for constructive discussion anymore. If I even ask a clarifying question about someone’s views, even one that I could potentially be swayed towards, the response always comes back as some variation of “You’re one of them aren’t you!”

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          There is no such thing as “leftist extremism” especially in the united states. It’s also not “purity testing” to want to not kill homeless and trans people.

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            You proved his point, arguing against his point.

            That’s some real lack of self awareness.

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              What point of his did I “prove”?

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                That your vapid contrarianism in willful ignorance of the commenter’s thesis is yet another example of the self-righteous, performative and banal virtue signalling infecting communications in this age at every level, in every medium, from every side.

                It’s feeding the philosophical and metaphysical simulacra created by techno-feudalists that provide the foundation to rule with impunity.

                If “perfect is the enemy of good”, the billionaires want the slaves performing purity tests of all varieties to distract from a common goal.

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              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulverism

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              Or yes Newsom’s widespread destruction of homeless camps surely has no consequences on that community and his support of transphobic rhetoric surely doesn’t contribute to massive trans suicide and murder rates how could I think otherwise? /S

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                  No here’s evidence

                  https://calmatters.org/housing/homelessness/2024/02/homeless-mortality-report/

                  https://sfstandard.com/2024/03/03/homeless-people-dying/

                  https://homelessstrategy.com/dying-while-homeless-is-a-burgeoning-crisis-in-california-that-necessitates-systemic-changes/amp/

                  https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/press/transpop-suicide-press-release/

                  https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11244576/

                  I could post thousands about high rates of homeless deaths in California are and how Newsom’s policies make that worse and how high trans suicide rates are and how that is cause largely by transphobia and how newsom contributes to that.

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                    Thank you for doing this legwork for me. I was too hung over this morning to deal with liberal fascist enabling stupidity myself.

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                    The first two links are different outlets reporting on the exact same study, which talks about a nationwide increase in death rates, not just California, and both have this quote from the study author early in the article:

                    Some of the increase in the mortality rate may be attributable to county death records keeping better track of who is homeless, Fowle said. Other than that, he and his team aren’t sure what else is behind the rising death rates — more research is needed, he said.

                    The third link is entirely about efforts to have better reporting, in order to figure out what policies might help. It has no policy recommendations or criticisms of current policy.

                    The fourth and fifth links are about suicide rates among transgender people nationally, not specific to California.

                    I am not tracking how any of these reflect on specific policies advocated for by Newsom.

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          I like Tildes for more nuanced conversations. It has the reply box all the way at the bottom of threads, which is a subtle discouragement of replying before reading the existing comments. It’s also just smaller and slower paced. It’s not immune to pile-on bubble-views, but it’s significantly toned down.

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        I mean, there are non-fascist neoliberals out there, but this shit is just fascism. If it can happen to the homeless, it can happen to anyone.

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        Newsom isn’t great but he’s leagues ahead of the small fingered vulgarian. I’m not going to let the perfect be the enemy of the good. He’s going to get my vote if he runs.

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          Unless someone better takes the place first. If newsom’s all we get then that’s what I’ll vote for because of how our voting system works, but I have faith that a good quality primary will bring a better candidate to the limelight

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            Spoiler alert: it will not.

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              Let me have my positivity while it doesn’t count.

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          “He’s not perfect” is such a weird way to describe someone whose policies are literally killing people just in his home state. Where and when are we going to draw the line on this shit?

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            What? Do something else so that a petty despot like the small fingered vulgarian can win again? Seriously.

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              Remember when Biden got in and it stopped fascism?

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        I’m not diluting the word, I’m using the classical definition of it.

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