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I did a report on this in 5th grade, people thought I was making it up.
i had someone here on lemmy try to say the scientists recruited to the US via operation paperclip weren’t involved in crimes against humanity. a lot of people have missed in the shuffle of the past 80 years exactly what happened during the holocaust.
I think the US media has washed their image so clean with the WW2 movies that most people have no idea about stuff like the nazi rally happened in the US and the support for eugenics in the Us, and the concentration camps in the Us.
lord… i live near two of the american concentration camps called out by name in the planning docs for auschwitz…
Or the Japanese concentration camps. USA bigot since day one. USA more like a white supremacists wet dream.
not to mention that one of the issues Nuremburg faced at the time was they couldn’t go too heavy on the pro-Jewish side because your average man on the street was so antisemitic as a matter of course that if you looked too sympathetic towards the holocaust you’d lose popular support.
Paperclip can be rationalised as pragmatic, but bow about these guys?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB_Gs-0dhOo
https://ebeggin.substack.com/p/ratlines-nato-and-the-fourth-reich https://www.businessinsider.com/former-nazi-officials-in-germany-post-world-war-ii-government-2016-10?r=US&IR=TChanged my view on history over the years.
They were effective anti-communists. Same reason after the War the US cuddled up with the essentially fascist regimes of Salazar and Franco.
Greece also was fascist.
All of them got a place in NATO, like many nazis.
They were anti-communist bcs that is the main characteristic of fascists.
And the US has zero problem with that, on the contrary.
The difference is that the Americans rolled out a red carpet for the Nazis and offered employment contracts. The Soviets showed up one night and kidnapped nearly 7000 nazis at gunpoint, and then forced them to work to pay reparations. Based.
They also committed mass rapes
The frogurt contains potassium cyanide.
They also claimed 7 out of every 10 Nazis killed in WWII, and by all accounts at the time, contributed the most to winning the war.
Absolutely…while kidnapping, raping, and murdering children. There was a reason Germans wanted the west troops to march in as opposed to the soviets.
To be fair to Von Braun, he did have slaves build his rockets.
Wasn’t just Von Braun and the V2. Me-262s were built with forced labor. Then there’s the Comet, which was an amazingly bad idea. I’m surprised it wasn’t flown by slave labor, as little as they seemed to care for the pilot’s safety. The fuel was so corrosive that if it leaked the pilot would be dissolved alive.
What were they supposed to do, leave them all to Operation Osoaviakhim?
the problem after WWII was there was only one christopher lee
How many were there before that?
That’s classified.
I wish humanity had the ability to download brains so we can just suck out all the info from those nazi scientists and firing-squad them all
Since the Nazis were fighting the Soviets in cold conditions, they did a lot of research on hypothermia. Their methodology involved putting Jews out in the cold and measuring how long it took for them to get hypothermia.
There was a lot of debate over whether the results of their research should be used or just be destroyed because using it might encourage future scientists to use immoral methods in their research. They ultimately decided to use that research.
But when they looked at the data, there was no real science happening. They were just freezing people to death out of cruelty with no benefit to science.
A lot of “Nazi science” is very overrated. Turns out cruel and hateful people don’t make for good scientists. Science is done by people and people and if those people ignore morality, they become very warped. “Science at all costs, ignore morality” doesn’t actually result in useful research. It may feel like ignoring ethics in favour of scientific progress is a strong pro-science stance, but it’s just another fascist power fantasy.
Its the reason the USA is fucked right now, they witness protectioned a bunch of nazis and they grew familys based on evil values.
Well Wernher von Braun was a weird one… for example he opposed segregation while some local govenor clearly did not
I do not think german nazis were too motivated against africans, specially african-americans. They were ultra racist against Jewish and Slavic.
The American nazis were the ones obsessed with skin color against black people.
At least that’s the impression I get when reading about those times.
Among other things
Russia like “Ooh! Write that down!”
Huh?
Russia also employed a bunch of Nazi scientists for their own rocket program.
Memorable quote from The Right Stuff, a good movie about the Space Race: “Our Nazis are better than their Nazis.”
