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    Assembly being obsolete has to be the funniest joke in here. It fundamentally never will be even if its use is niche

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    How are you defining “Obsolete” vs “Nu”?

    e.g. Brainfuck from 1993 is all the way to Nu, while D (2001) and Rust (2012) are less “Nu”?

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    This is a very bad chart:

    • I don’t understand what Toy Lang, Nu Lang or even System Lang mean
    • How are C and Assembly obsolete?
    • How is C++ more obsolete than D or Go?
    • PHP still powers a large portion of the internet, certainly not a “Toy Lang”
    • Why is ECMAScript here and not JavaScript?

    Downvoting.

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      This chart is easier to understand if you make the following substitutions:

      • Toy Lang --> high level language (except brainfuck really is a low level toy language)
      • System Lang --> low level language
      • Obsolete Lang --> old programming language, regardless of obsolescence status
      • Nu Lang --> newer programming language

      After understanding this construction, I fail to find any humor in this.

      Why is ECMAScript here and not JavaScript?

      Among other things, “JavaScript” is a trademark of Oracle.

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        I fail to find any humour in this. I think the humour are the labels (Toy, System, Nu, Obsolete), which are however incorrect and misleading.

        Among other things, “JavaScript” is a trademark of Oracle.

        Does this prevent it from being used in memes?

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    The only way Assembly will be obsolete is if there were no new chips processor models being created.

    Every time a new architecture or a new instruction group is announced, it has to be bootstrapped into the C compiler.

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    Yeah, the axes on this are weird, why would the opposite of a systems language be a toy language? And why is Lua, a very popular and commonly used language in tons of stuff, a “toy”? And Lua is a nu Lang? It’s older than Java, maybe it just feels newer because each release isn’t necessarily backwards compatible?

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    It wouldn’t be a good compass if nobody had strong issues with it:

    1. System vs Toy is not opposed to each other. Should have been system vs abstract or useful vs toy or whatever
    2. Where LISP? Best language missing makes graph bad

    Edit: before people tell me there’s already ‘obsolete’ on the graph, no, there’s loads of obsolete languages that are still useful, and many more new languages that are either built for fun or not used for sad or good reasons.

    Edit2: I’m also halfway sure that brainfuck is older than rust (but don’t wanna look it up). But if that’s true your axis mean several things at once anyway and you should feel bad (not really though).

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        Haskell’s also not there. I was ready to criticize any quadrant it was put in heh. But that’s probably mostly because the axes are kinda bad.

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    Curious how you decided what goes where, I’d hardly consider SQL a “Toy Lang” as opposed to a “System Lang”