Blatantly unconstitutional. The voting is directly controlled by the state constitutions, not the fed. Even congress would need to amend the constitution to do this, but we’ll see how the bench legislators in SCOTUS rule.
The Constitution no longer matters when all branches of power fail to uphold it and instead collude with the Orange King.
SCOTUS already crossed that line with Trump v. Anderson.
Not really the same, that ruling was for the Fourteenth Amendment disqualification because Trump engaged in insurrection against the United States, that states can’t individually determine if someone engaged in insurrection.
Article 1 of the constitution outlines clearly that states manage the time, place and manner of elections:
The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.
States determine ballot eligibility for their ballots. 14A S3 clearly addresses ballot eligibility in relation to insurrection. When I say that SCOTUS “crossed that line”, I meant that in the sense of “they were wrong, I wonder why”.
Congress could probably do it, but it would have to be functional to do so. Which it very much is not.
“Remember, the States are merely an ‘agent’ for the Federal Government in counting and tabulating the votes. They must do what the Federal Government, as represented by the President of the United States, tells them, FOR THE GOOD OF OUR COUNTRY, to do,” Trump wrote.
Just gonna leave that right there.
Well that’s fucking horrifying.
He said “United States” but doesn’t recognize what that means. I wonder how much more things can get undermined before people really get pissed enough to sacrifice everything and stop the fall. How do you herd so many felines in the same direction?
No, this is one we should be concerned about. Eliminate mail-in voting, and democrats won’t win another election again. The vast majority of people vote by mail.
He can’t eliminate mail-in voting by executive order.
And before you say ‘he doesn’t care about the law he’ll do it anyway,’ no state that isn’t already fallen to the crazy will acknowledge such an order.
This is an obvious distraction. One you are falling for.
he actuy said those words at the last zelensky meeting
Release the Trump/Epstein files
Gonna have to draft a constitutional amendment dumass
He’ll just shut down USPS for the 6 weeks leading up to the next election.
Oregon has been entirely state-wide mail-in voting for decades. Good luck shutting down an entire state’s mail for more than a month.
I mean, it already worked didn’t it?
First term the USPS was taken from a trusted, consistent, and reliable way to move mail. I to something that a considerable number of people no longer trust BECAUSE it was sabotaged.
All he has to do is continue sabotaging our institutions, then they will no longer be effective, and can be cut down with public approval. Since voters have the memories of gnats.
It doesn’t need to shut down, it just needs to be made ineffective, gutted, and sold to UPS & FedEx for pennies on the dollar. So private corps can benefit from our public investments, to our detriment.
“STatE rIGhtS”
Traitor. Destroying America at every turn. And not in a good way.
Executive. Orders. Are. Not. Laws.
They kind of are when the courts are captured.
They are now.
They are not. Only Trump and his sycophants think so.
WTAF. Assuming we even still have voting, I’m going to be so pissed if this dementia-addled diaper-filling piece of shit means voting in Colorado has to be in-person.
Fuck this guy.
Electioneering is a power reserved to the states. So, this order is ignorable.
So are dozens of others, that didn’t stop them from being enforced and acted up on.
Unlike the laws that our constitution outlines, which are not enforced or observed.
that didn’t stop them from being enforced and acted up on.
Well, technically congress can invent a financial reward for following its legislative incentives. So, Congress can essentially bribe a state into followibg its ideals, but a state can opt out in favor of self governance so long as it does jot interfere with a power expressed to Congress nor violate the amendments to the us constitution via the 14th and 15th Amendments. So, a state cannot create voting test laws and the such, but they can decide what a district does or doesn’t look like.
How much would it cost realistically for us to go back to paper only, each district or country or however you wanna chop it up is allotted x amount of dollars and y amount of time, and we count this shit one by one on public TV so that if you want to see your own ballot actually be counted and confirmed, you can because they’d be serialized and you could guestimate. People will have backups for calling horseshit, etc. it cannot not be worth it.
I don’t give a single fuck about same day results, this is democracy and people’s lives for the next decade plus.
I know for a fact it wouldn’t cost a single percentage of what this administration alone has cost us.
Overseas voters exist. We still have to file taxes every year, can’t invest in a lot of things in retirement plans (look up PFICs), and generally are fucked by the IRS by laws presumably meant to keep the rich from hiding money. There is no way I could pay the thousands of dollars to fly to the states and back to vote in “my state” (in which I haven’t lived in 10 years, but the US system is a trainwreck).
For sure. I’m not sure if you’re commenting on the wrong comment or not, I’m all for absentee/mail in ballots and I don’t think anything in my commend suggests otherwise.
I took “for us to go back to paper voting” to include somehow requiring overseas voters and did indeed wonder at the cost of it
How do oversees voters vote? I always just thought it’d be through the mail
It’s by mail.
So the exact process seems to vary by state, but it generally boils down to:
- some for of verification and registration for the year (my state requires this yearly and you are expected to initiate this as it does not happen automatically)
- get an email or physical mail ballot (not all states allow email from what I gather)
- fill out the ballot, various other forms, and send them to the state via physical mail
Makes sense
You can go renounce at embassy. Wtf gqve you not become citizen where you are? How fucking hard do they make this shit?
When my parents die, I will renounce. I need to be able to get to them without issue in the event of emergency.
I hold two citizenships but live in a third country. If I were to get citizenship here (Japan) I would be forced to renounce both my existing citizenships.
I would not be a Japanrse citizen. They work to hard and end up killing themselves frequestly. Americans are even better off than the Japanese. I mean, until citizens start going to concentration camps…
I’ve been in Japan a decade and you couldn’t pay me enough to live in the US. I have great work-life balance at my main job which is fully remote.
I am glad to hear that is the case. When I was in Japan people would sleep on the train and be conditioned to awakrn at their stop. I always thought a person must be worked to the bone to be that way.
Can’t win without cheating or rigging. Sounds right for the Party of Pedos.
It’s an executive order, it doesn’t have that power.
Yet states and other agencies will “make it happen” as if it does.
Can we just replace the president with AI? I would be more confident at that point.
