In June, Rep. Eric Burlison, a Missouri Republican serving on the House Oversight Committee, appeared on BlazeTV’s Prime Time with Alex Stein, where he discussed his belief that giants once existed. Burlison told Stein he was scheduled to be at “NephCon 2025,” a conference focused on fringe topics including the biblical Nephilim —figures in Genesis that some interpret as the giant offspring of angels and human women.
He credited Timothy Alberino’s podcast with sending him “far down the rabbit hole,” eventually reaching claims that the Smithsonian Institution is hiding evidence, the bones of past giants that lived on the Earth. Burlison suggested that, as a member of the Oversight Committee, he could investigate the Smithsonian.
pinch bridge of nose… deep breath
How the fuck is the left losing to literal insane people and morons. How the fuck are there DOZENS, if not hundreds, of people sitting in the highest positions of our government who believe 1000% in actually certifiable conspiracy theories about giants, space lasers, weather machines, chem trails, microchips vaccines, 5G mind control/Covid generation, and virgins blood drinking rituals… and yet we are still debating the democrats based on high brow merit.
I fucking hate these people, but I really hate all of the mother fucking morons and degenerates that helped put them into these positions more. And that includes all of you dumbasses that just didnt vote for Kamala whether willfully or apathetically. I have no love for the woman either, but come the fuck on. Look what the fuck you have done. I’m so tired of pretending that any of this shit is abnormal and temporary and will be reigned in. There is no end in sight, and seems only likely to get way worse. Fuck all of you shortsighted, idiotic and hateful assholes. You did this and now we all suffer because of it.
How the fuck is the left losing to literal insane people and morons.
The left usually doesn’t get to run. The center keeps losing to literal insane people and morons.
And the center is really another name for status quo or no change, but no one gets elected for saying they want to do nothing, so they claim “centrism” for palatability
It’s because you won’t run for political office.
It’s that lack of action.
Oh, we all agree with your words. It’s not about consensus.
I live in Indiana in a hard red district. If I thought there was even a chance, I’d seriously be considering it. I couldn’t even manage to get to city council here though. Half of the local elections dont even have a Dem or independent running because there is no chance for it. Your name has an R next to it or you fuck off with your maybe 15 percent.
In America the left lost due to two things:
An industrial and computer revolution that redistributed most of the population over two generations. This broke the grassroots movement mechanism the civil rights and later efforts depended on. Internet chat rooms were not a replacement.
Allowing the people in power to count votes and decide who won elections over 30 years
No, not even close. When do you think the Industrial Revolution happened in America that you feel it is somehow within the last 40 years?
Most of the population moved and changed careers. Not just in America but worldwide
The reason it impacted Americans more than other countries was there was more land area to move. While there was as much changing jobs in France, Germany, Japan, Canada during the period. There was less distance moved, and more social connections were kept.
I noticed you deliberately didn’t answer my question. Welcome to my blocklist.
How the fuck is the left losing to literal insane people and morons.
The size and scale of media available to the Silicon Valley tech sector has afforded them enormous leverage over modern Americans and their view of the world. “The Giant of Kandahar” is one example of a mythology that helps explain why Americans lost in Afghanistan, without ceding that our whole 23 year occupation was a mix of waste and incompetence. It’s one part engagement-bait, one part conspiracy theory, and one part evangelical propaganda (the Giant is further embellished as a Nephilim, thus proving we were fighting a Holy War overseas and not just engaged in an opium-laced land grab).
I fucking hate these people, but I really hate all of the mother fucking morons and degenerates that helped put them into these positions more. And that includes all of you dumbasses that just didnt vote for Kamala
The claim that Kamala Harris lost because she was stabbed in the back by far-left, transgender, pro-Putin antisemites is its own brand of BlueMAGA mythology and serves much the same purpose as the dogmatic superstition on the right.
You did this and now we all suffer because of it.
The folks leading the charge are the billionaires profiting off the exploitation. They aren’t suffering. They’re getting sucked off at orgies full of sex trafficking victims imported from countries - like Israel and El Salvador and Japan and German - where we’ve built up a large military presence for the purpose of exploitation.
Everyone else is told that they either need to throw their support behind this rapist pig wanna-be Mussolini or the AIPAC-aligned insurance company ghoul, because failing to support My Team means you deserve whatever misery is inflicted by Their Team.
Somehow, the pain we all end up experiencing from outside the corporate walled garden is always either Fake News (when My Team is Winning) or Your Own Stupid Fault (when Their Team is Winning).
I will tell you the answer but you aren’t going to like it:
The VAST majority of people do not operate rationally. What I mean by this is that they do not evaluate their mental responses to see if they align with rational values. Note I do not just say repugnicans. Nearly everyone is like this
They operate by post-hoc justification.
This is why cheetolini won, he tells people “You’ve been screwed over and I’m here to help, all the fancy elites ignore you but I won’t”
He’s lying, of course, but it’s what the people want to hear.
Dems shout facts ‘The economy is better here than almost anywhere else in the world right now’, and ‘lowest inflation in 10 years’, but people don’t FEEL like they are doing well so they say “Oh those dems always spouting bullshit, not like Drumpf who KNOWS what’s on my mind”
And that’s how he won, through lies and a self-satisfied justification seeking voterbase.
Many people have extremely low literacy levels and have difficulties with media criticism. In the US, this is largely driven by the Right’s attack on education in response to Brown v Board of Ed - if black children get to go to school, they don’t want them to receive a good education. The higher echelons of the Right can afford to send their children to private schools anyway. Many schools in the US also spent the past decade not teaching phonics (using a “whole reading” model that was tested and proven to be ineffective in the 1970’s) and school English curriculums have deprioritized reading entire novels in favor of the passages that show up on standardized tests. Subjects like history and science have also gotten the shrift in favor of more time on math and reading in the decontextualized format they use on these tests.
We live in an era of violent anti intellectualism. It is trivially easy to make shit up, and the internet provides a constant stream of slop. This was bad before AI, AI has accelerated it. And with a distrust in institutions and the idea of an “expert” in general - people will not believe anyone that goes against their pet ideas. It makes them feel smarter, that they know something that the experts don’t. Those latte drinking elitists think they know things, but I know better! There’s the double edged sword of they “know” that you can’t believe everything online, but what that ends up doing is allowing them to pick and choose what they believe. You can provide a Wikipedia article demonstrating that what they are claiming is a 1000 year old Incan carving is a modern art project, but they’ll just claim Wikipedia isn’t a valid source - while uncritically believing “Amazing Facts Channel.”
It’s an attack on the idea of knowledge itself, the world of “alternative facts.” You can pick and choose what to believe - to live in a world of make believe where you are The Chosen One because you know all of these things that the “experts” are too dumb to see.
It kind of reminds me of my ex husband, when I tried to explain how to solve quadratic equations to him. “But what if you could just take the square root of the whole thing and pretend x is that? Isn’t all of math made up anyway?” He had deep insecurities because he had been raised to believe he was a genius, and couldn’t stand being wrong about anything. He’d be furious when I looked up basic facts he was incorrect about because he would constantly belittle my intelligence.
I don’t know if the problem is fixable. Maybe if the internet dies, maybe if we lose Facebook and AI and everything else in some sort of Carrington event and have to go back to books. I don’t know.
It’s warfare, like being hit with bullets. Except it’s new and it’s online social warfare. Literally millions of slaves (bots are slaves) posting online for at least 9 years now.
And the others, like Candace Owens who is well spoken and reasonably intelligent but doesn’t believe in dinosaurs apparently - are also slaves, but being blackmailed into saying this shit.
We free people are sitting amongst a slave takeover like a zombie virus broke out. Our lawmakers KNEW and should have enacted a national online government forum so we would have a secure way of communicating politically that would protect free speech - but they all MAJORLY SUCK at progressive policy, especially for anything MODERN, so they didn’t do it. And it fucked us.
Years of the GOP rigging elections
He’s from Missouri. There are certain states where they don’t spend enough on public education, and it shows.
The Show-Me State. “Show me you’re not hiding giant bones.”
WARES BIGFOOT
This is what religious colleges teach. Any weird religious bullshit they want. As if it were reality. To kids/young adults in school.
You get an extra 20 points if you said “gawd did it” and why: “cuz’ fictional gawds can do anything!”
No really. That’s how religious schools grade things. Now for an extra five points, draw a picture of jebus’ asshole.
They aren’t hiding them… They are in the dinosaur exibit. Under “Dinosaur”
Religious assholes want to rename dinosaur bones as “biblical Giant Human bones”.
Because, yes, they are that stupid. Please stop pretending they aren’t.
Also: Release Epstein Files. This is not a distraction.
Because, yes, they are that stupid.
We know about dinosaurs because we had a large and enthusiastic media campaign to promote their discovery and study.
People who grew up in households that weren’t exposed to Paleontology as a science, but got immersed in religious propaganda and mythology, came out with a totally different understanding of the world.
This has nothing to do with human intelligence. Although, the intrinsic need to stack rank every population into “Smarties” and “Dummies” is another instance of Calvinist propaganda (transmuted by Ayn Randian eugenic theories) tricking otherwise intelligent people into believing the craziest and most incoherent things.
Hide it to what end?
They’re pointing at the Nephilim, the angel/human hybrids that were walking around smashing everyone’s stuff before Noah’s Flood.
Yeah, I don’t think these people should be allowed near the power of government, either.
I wish Republicans would work only on giants and UFOs, and not on fascism.
The sad part is they know the giants and UFOs are fake but talk about this stuff to avoid talking about gutting medicare, tax cuts for the rich, and how they’re currently covering up the epstein files.
Not to be that guy, but I want the Cyclops one to be real more. That elephant just looks goofy
And Rep. Anna Paulina Luna was just on Joe Rogan saying she recently saw proof of non-human UFOs. And that UFOs are from interdimensional beings.
Tbf, they’re kinda not actually denying it anymore since the pentagon released the tic tac video (among others) and actually admitted “yeah this is real and we have no fucking clue what it is.” They’re just called UAPs now instead of UFOs.
And the interdimensional theory isn’t a fabrication of her mind, it’s one of the leading theories, along with “actual aliens” and “us from the future.” It’s not even the wildest theory thrown around, some think the crafts themselves are alive, and the biological looking things we call aliens are the drones. Of course, all just theories.
Now does she “have proof” of any of that beyond what the pentagon has already admitted? Likely not, but someone probably does have some more info than we know, she just ain’t in the club.
She is a Russian asset. She is not credible.
They are saying weird shit about aliens for other plots, like bombing Seattle and San Francisco and blaming it on aliens coming out of the ocean. The aliens are people. They aren’t real. Please, please, let go of the notion that there is any kind of sky daddy coming to save you. There’s no god, no religious figure, no celebrity, no politician, no aliens who care about you or us or want to save us. There’s just you wanting to take care of you, and yeah it would be a relief to not have to do that and struggle, but that’s not happening. Let go of sky daddy.
let go of the notion that there is any kind of sky daddy coming to save you.
And you prefer the equally improbable idea of “we’re entirely alone in the universe?” While also discounting the possibility that there could be anything but benevolence (like malevolence, or indifference, even fully autonomous and devoid of the will necessary to ascribe them any of these attributes)?
I prefer the Robert Anton Wilson approach of agnosticism to most things (in life, not just this): “I don’t know, and you don’t either.”
Genuinely, WHAT
I never said aliens in the universe don’t exist! Read again! I never gave any statement on the existence of life outside this planet, or of aliens as a scientific concept.
I am saying this specific “spaceship” coming for us that contains “aliens”, the entire idea of these “aliens” MAGA and billionaire fascists are talking about, is NOT real. THOSE aliens are fake. THOSE people are genocidal liars. That’s why they are the only ones talking about it.
Alright then:
Genuinely, WHAT
I never said what she said was the absolute truth! Read again! I never gave any statement on this specific “spaceship” coming for us that contains “aliens” that MAGA and billionaire fascists are talking about.
Sorry to “chopped and screwed” your comment, but same same. I never said this bitch was some alien ambassador, I said you can’t entirely discount the existence of UAPs anymore like people have been since (well, actually before, but) 1947.
Go project your political bullshit on someone else, this conversation is about the potential existence of UAPs. And they’re NOT the only ones talking about it.
I said you can’t entirely discount the existence of UAPs anymore like people have been since (well, actually before, but) 1947.
I AM NOT DOING THAT, that’s a strawman! That’s my point.
Rep Luna and all the GOP are LIARS working for a foreign government, this is substantially supported with evidence. You cannot take their word in good faith at all. The lies about the “aliens” coming are lies.
Whether OTHERS in the alien community are ALSO liars is another conversation. This conversation was never about proving if UAPs exist or existed lol, read again, it is about whether this administration is acting in good faith about these claims (answer: absolutely not).
This entire thread started off political - look at the title of the OP, genius. Look at the person cited (Rep Luna). If you don’t like politics, don’t go into a political thread and reference a politician.
And your strawman is that I support some specific lady I’ve never heard of so I guess we’re at a stalemate. Was this fun for you, or?..
The alien shit makes me wanna vomit. It clearly is a planned future attack by our government or a foreign government that they want to blame on aliens. MAGA think the aliens are their friends and will save them. It’s really not good and I hope that plan never reaches fruition.
Yeah, there is a strong apocalyptic tint to everything that has been growing in the last few years in UFO discourse. And Thiel is interested in that discourse. And he has his own anti-Christ ideas.
Both Thiel and a woman who goes around talking about aliens/ufos in the context of religion have been on the same NYT podcast recently. The podcast is about the current right wing control of the country, and about documenting their views on things.
It’s all very weird. And it’s a whole lot of smoke. I’m not sure what the fire is yet, apart from it being the right wing pandering to people for their support. Maybe it’s more than that.
I am a proDomme/Dominatrix and often meet wealthy people. I was texting with a guy for like a year in like 2022 who turned out to be a very very wealthy Nazi, as in, he had no job, not even managing his own wealth, and his family had a big trust that he gets paid from. They own massive amounts of commercial real estate. He also had several adopted siblings from Russia.
And when he finally unmasked as a real self described neoNazi, again after a year of texting otherwise normal stuff, he believed in the alien stuff. He did not believe in Christianity but called Christians “useful fools” that the wealthy need for their plans. And he was ADAMENT that the aliens would “come to save us.”
After the discussion I had with him, I am fully convinced the aliens are some kind of drone attack or other military attack to support the genocidal goals of Putin to take over the US. It is not like the earth is flat stuff or the dinosaurs aren’t real stuff - relatively harmless and stupid - but more akin to the ivermectin eating, vaccines are bad, don’t wear masks psyops meant to genuinely kill people.
The drone stuff that happened at the end of the year musta been really interesting for you then. That’s wild.
Rather recently in an interview Trump said he would love to tell us what the drones were and then said “but it’s not up… it’s not a big deal.” It really seemed like he almost said “it’s not up to me.” Trump says a lot of batshit stuff, but afaik he doesn’t make this sort of slip often. He says other nonsense.
There’s definitely weird smoke.
I was not happy with the drone stuff but every flight I saw was recorded on Flightradar, never saw anything bad or weird. I do live by a few nuclear interests and we had extra Blackhawks flying around then also.
Trump also said he had to get permission from Marco Rubio to decorate and move a clock around during a recent cabinet meeting or press conference (can’t remember the nature of the talk but it was in the Whitehouse).
Does not sound like he’s in control at all, and I think as his slips continue/dementia worsens it’ll be interesting to see what he says for sure.
Have they read a description of an angel ever? They’re like flaming wheels made of eyes and shit, I’m pretty sure we would have insane stories of part human part wagon wheel motherfuckers wandering about.
Just a heads up about the biblically accurate angels meme, the word for eyes also translates to lights. It’s more fun to pretend that it’s eyes but they were just describing their DBZ auras.
It could also be used for either or technically both but even ignoring that they’re usually all wings or all wheels.
They’re gonna make the Ark Museum grifters the new curators arent they.
Oh. It’s not a metaphor?
The Giant of Kandahar is modern US military folklore.
Part of how we explain away why Americans with cutting edge technology couldn’t successfully grind down the Afghan resistance over 23 years.
So are WMDs…
You know what. I hope this is true.
Like imagine in the middle of all this bullshit the Smithsonian is just like “ok yeah you got us, giants are real and we have their bones” that would be so fucking wild.
Okay why not, but release the Epstein files first then we can talk
What a fucking moron
If you think you have seen crazy, some American comes ant tops it.