That’s two deaths. And they get a year?
If he hit a third cyclist, they’d have given him a medal
And a bonus
The short prison sentence doesn’t bother me. Prisons are a social poison that we should be doing away with for all but readily and immediately violent individuals.
What fucks me up is that he’s getting his keys handed back in six months. He’s getting quick and untested access right back to the large machine that he already demonstrated he is mortally dangerous when operating. Doesn’t sound like they’re even going to test him on correct use. That thing you just killed several people and maimed dozens others while operating? Welcome back buddy, do it again.
IMO he should be doing several years of community service, primarily as restorative repentance in the community where the crimes took place, and having his license revoked for at least five years. Getting it back should require a higher barrier of testing than the default. Put a black box in that car and have it report everything for the first year.
I absolutely agree on all points. I just meant that, in the current system, if the murder weapon was different, he would’ve been getting much worse consequences.
Right, morality of prison notwithstanding our society does treat this particular murder weapon much more lightly than most others. Imagine his prison sentence if he walked into a store with a gun and oopsie whoopsie killed 2 people / maimed 11 others.
Or (to make the damage scenario a bit more realistic) went into a store juggling a hand grenade and whoopsie killed 2 people and maimed 11 others.
Totally on your side. A car is a super dangerous object, equally dangerous as a weapon, and driving one should be considered an immense privilege, not a right.
Car murderers can take the bus, and if there’s no bus where they live, they can move somewhere else.
Imagine he was a pilot or a forklift driver. He would never ever get his license back. That’s what should be done here.
He proved that he’s not capable of safely operating a car. Why should he ever be allowed that privilege again?
It is because this was not an intentional act, they fell asleep, were distracted by fatigue, or something of the sort. Basically this person was too tired to drive properly.
In my country falling asleep on the wheel (or just driving a car while being too fatigued to drive safely) is a crime punishable with up to 5 years and that’s if you hurt nobody.
Driving while fatigued is on par with driving drunk or under the influence of drugs.
Well you have to understand that conservative states are more worried about peoples’ right to transit than their right to safety. As a result, these sorts of things always get a low punishment while things like marijuana get harsher sentences.
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If someone hits me while I ride my bike and they get off the charges like this. I will do what’s necessary to achieve justice.
And now they’ll pull this comment, call it premeditated, and put you away for life.
I mean getting hit by a car is too often a special kind of life sentence of it’s own.
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Hit him back with your bike and get life sentence?
Murder people for free with this one simple trick! Cyclists hate it!
Not for free he had to pay $2,500. So murder costs $1,250
That’s a bargain if you ask me!
“If you want to get away with murder, do it with a car” has been a common transportation advocate’s refrain over in NYC for like a few decades at this point.
I had an instructor in college who was also a cop back in 2005 who told the class the same thing
The only justice here would be changing the road design, driver licensing, and training to prevent this from happening in the future.
The NTSB concluded that driver fatigue was to blame for the deadly collision
Fatigue is a known threat to safety. Fatigue is not discussed during driver training. An understanding of the dangers of fatigue is not tested during driver licensing. Roads can be designed to prevent known human weaknesses like distraction and fatigue from killing people. All of these things can be fixed. These deaths were preventable.
There is no justice in this case. Justice is not punitive.
In my country the punishment for falling asleep behind the wheel is up to 5 years in prison. That is if you don’t hurt anyone.
And our laws are already crazy chill for drivers.
Was the production on the take with that plea agreement. How can two deaths on the road with a perfectly working car be a misdomenor. Not enough evidence smh.
For purely academic reasons… What’s the color of their skin?
Brown. Any follow up questions?
Okay this is a hilarious interaction ngl
