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    Is, “influenced by billionaires,” a euphemism for, “she let her uber executive brother-in-law talk her into gutting any economic populism from her campaign in favor of tepid centrist policies that cost her the election and ushered in a new era of American fascism?”

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      I mean I’m not sure Bernie is that woke, much as I love him, but that’s pretty much the view from over here.

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        I disagree, but I do think he has an outdated notion of civil politics and wouldn’t make the same point in connection with her. I’m surprised he said as much about Harris, though I’m grateful if it helps dissuade the Dems from re-nominating her.

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          I dont know if you’ve been to reddit but there are a ton of Gavin Newsom posts. They’re probably gonna force this blue conservative down the voting publics throats.

          And all i hear are crickets from the democratic party regarding replacing First-past-the-post voting in the blue states they control. The democrats will never release their hostages willingly.

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            Nobody trusts the DNC, we just don’t know what to do otherwise at this point. How DO we the people get past the 2 party system? How DO we reduce the powers of the presidency without a president themselves reducing those powers? How do we get someone in that seat who will actually act in our interests? How DO we get a bought-and-paid-for congress out of their seats when money runs unchecked through our politics?

            I’ve been posting on the Jon Stewart 2028 thread. At least over there I get to dream that somebody might already be popular enough with the electorate to forgo the DNC’s king-making process. We’re in a bad way and not getting set up for success in the next cycle.

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    I mean, I voted for her, and would vote for her again any day if it meant voting against Trump, but he’s not wrong.

    She’s not really unique in that aspect compared to any other mainstream Democrat vs any outsider or mainstream Republican, and that’s probably ~90% of the DNC’s problem when it comes to overcoming voter apathy.

    Realistically, most people are not expecting Dems to refuse large donations, but accepting a donation should not mean that you then compromise your own values to accommodate 1% of voters on any issue. That’s not how a democracy is supposed to work. That’s just pay to play.

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      Its so stupid to me that we’ve now reached the point that politicians don’t even pretend to be public servants anymore. They’re just paypigs doing whatever the money wants. Used to be, a campaign donation got you a “hi how are ya” and maybe a thank you card after the election. They sent you money and it was nice of them because you needed it.

      Now with kamala, she got the largest grassroots fundraising of any candidate in history and what does she do? Listen to a bunch of rich fucks who gave the maximum contribution. I bet they all voted for Trump too. She’s either the most incompetent and gullible politician in american history or the dnc are fascist collaborators. The way she turned away from every popular idea she had makes it seem like she was told to lose. Im sure its been fucking great for her brother tho.

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    …. She would have been another bandaid. Just like Biden was. Out of everything that’s happening right now, why is this making the news?

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      This is the liberal media distraction from the Trump Epstein files. It gives us anything to read about that isn’t one of the 4 major dictators. Xi, Putin, Trump, or Netanyahu. Also allows the liberals to further balkanize into even smaller groups.

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    It’s not just Harris, it’s the whole Democratic Party leadership DNC…

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    don’t forgot all the aipac bribes she took to look the over way as children were slaughtered.

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    I mean, he’s correct in that both political parties have been bought and paid for by large corporations for a long time. This shouldn’t be news, it should be plainly obvious by now.

    One party is openly hostile towards the average citizen. The other puts on a friendly mask for the public but is also hostile towards the average citizen. None of them actually give a fuck about the average person. Trump is exceptionally arrogant and aggressive with his goals, but I promise he is far from the first person to have such goals or to exploit the government system for personal gain. He is the first to be so obvious about it, but it has been happening for decades, hidden under the guise of ‘security’ and other buzz words.

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      The news isn’t that the Democratic party is bought and paid for by the oligarchy. The news is that Bernie has stopped playing nice with the DNC.

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        Thank you for that take; this is the important part. Now I’d like him to get mean, please.

        Without organized labor parties to call for strikes or make demands we are really stuck waiting for somebody famous (and who we trust) to say what needs to be said, and organize what needs to be organized. And it needs to happen soon. In Bernie we could trust.

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    This seems to be how the majority of Democrats in office are and they’ll never see themselves as wrong… They just point at Trump and say he’s what’s wrong. And yeah they’re not wrong about that but that doesn’t make them right or good either. You get stuck running for a bad candidate or a downright evil candidate. And yeah I voted for Harris. I voted for Biden and Hilary too. Id vote for a literal log of shit on the floor before I voted for Trump, but that doesn’t mean I liked the Democratic candidates or that I’m super happy with party. This country isn’t set up to make third party candidates an option… But no…I don’t think the Democrats in office will every see themselves as a problem.

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      A third of your comment is a disclaimer that democrats arent exactly the same as Republicans. Sorry, you are well below the 69% threshold, and are now a secret Republican nazi Russian communist who loves trump with all your heart! /$

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    Name one mainstream party in the current day world that isn’t being influenced by billionaires or their country-specific equivalents (if the country has no billionaires for instance)

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    Bernie is pointing out one of the major flaws of the Democratic Party and he is way ahead of his time in regard to US politics. Can you imagine if the USA would look at itself like Norway.

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      An oil producing enthostate governed by a neoliberal plutocracy?

      I think we already tried that under Bush, Obama, and Biden.

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      The DNC is committed to insider trading, corruption and AIPAC. In no way do they represent the interests of the majority. They are rewarded handsomely to play reluctant enabler in the political theater.