Are people really arguing that copyright infringement is theft?
We have come full circle.
we’re focused on the double standard. it’s theft and we go to prison when the people do it. it’s innovation and good when the billionaires do it. who’s always getting stolen from is the poor, and always by the billionaires. any attempt to reverse this flow is met with prison time.
No. They’re saying that if the government is calling copyright theft by all other measures, this should be too.
It is the playing field being unlevel that is under question in both cases.
It’s only copyright theft when the poors do it.
You hit the nail on the head, dude.
If you are wealthy enough it is, if not then you are fucked.
Goes both ways doesn’t it? People defending piracy of software but hating on AI.
But when an analog artist gets his inspiration (like AI) from other artists it’s fine when an AI does it all hell breaks loose.
peak hypocrisy…
The anti-AI crowd appears to outweigh the pro-piracy crowd on Lemmy.
Difference is for me, if I feed a LLM your work and now it can produce books, music, or art in your style, then yeah its infringement, especially if you monetise that output. Its devaluing your ability to make new and unique content if your work isn’t protected if I can copy your style with a simple prompt for say a recruitment ad for ICE and there is fuck all you can do about it.
Why fight to prop up capitalism?
Which is more capitalistic, giant corporations like Facebook stealing others work and devaluing labour and talnet further or self created content that could be quite easily self published? Its classic big guy verses little guy.
Who’s more likely to have the legal fees to pursue copyright infringement cases, the big corporations who do it all the time stringing people along until they go broke trying to fight them and than go and lobby for another 10 years copyright extension or the poor artist?
Copyright and IP exist for their benefit, not ours.
Yeah, we’re like the peasants who were robbed of all the wheat they worked so hard to grow and left to starve. Hell, what if executions for thoughtcrimes became the norm?
“Style” is not a trademarkeable asset, you buffon.
It’s not theft. Nothing is taken, no-one is deprived of their work, and no copies are even made
It takes people’s collective work and then requires those same people to pay to use it. It allows already mega wealthy companies to get even richer by selling people’s own creativity back to them.
I also see a lot of privacy issues - the fact that let loose on a specific data set (like Facebook) it then knows anything about anyone. Even if I don’t use Facebook myself because I hate it - if someone would congratulate my spouse with the 10th birthday of our son Chris, A.I. now knows I have a son, born on this day in 2015, his name is Chris. That fact isn’t stored in a database where it’s easily erased. It’s part of a probability vector in an artificial brain, where it can’t be removed even if I request the source data to be deleted. This is actually what worries me more, for all the good AI can do, there is a lot more evil. If the Nazis would have this in 1940, there would be no resistance movement. It would be trivial to see who would be part of it and who would be their families and friends.
You wouldn’t steal a car
But i would feed it to chatgpt for some sweet output
Check your drive. Tee hee
But I would shit in his hat!
Err… Go to the toilet in his hat. Sorry.
You wouldn’t download a car.
You wouldn’t download the entire internet.
I would if I could
See my art? It’s totally mine.
I did this almost 2 years ago for my profile, I think they’ve “fixed” it by now though.
My only complaint about this image is that AI hasn’t shown any ability to replace jobs. All of the AI companies are burning money on models that peaked a while ago and are still ass for any skilled labor, it’s a dead end.
I’m sorry, when has this “any ability” you speak of been a marker for any excuse to cut costs by corporations? capitalist demons like musk have yet to show “any ability” themselves; seems to be working out fine for them.
I hate musk, he deserves a special place in hell, but he was an absolute wizard at replacing human labor. His car factories ran so fast that his engineers had to account for aerodynamics while still on the production line.
that’s not a good thing
It could be if we taxed and fined him into the dirt.
I know several companies which have stopped paying for stock photos and using AI laundered images or using AI to remove watermarks without any skills in image editing softwares.
Is it replacing jobs? I don’t know the economics of this field well enough to know what cut the photographer gets, but I know that there’s less cash flowing into this sector due to genAI
You can tell when a stock photo is ai, it looks creepy and weird and people hate it. They didn’t replace workers, they downgraded their product.
We know that, but it’s a slow creep of sludge and most decision makers see the cost go down and rejoice
This. And all that “convenience” makes the world uglier and less human. Where we used to take a taxi on holiday and have a chat with the driver about his life and his family, and get a few tips on where to eat where the locals eat, we can now get robotaxied somewhere without any human interaction at all. And we get doctored made up images of destinations that don’t exist, by people that look like manga versions of themselves. We truly live in the cheapest version of the world nowadays.
I was shocked to see in a bookstore how many kids books had images made by gpt-1
What legal precedent said theft is legal if it’s used to train AI?
What is stealing? I prefer to use the term “greedy bear”, who, after looking at someone’s thing, immediately decides that it is now his to the last piece!
