as i said people are clueless. pay attention to how people are actually behaving. most frontline individuals are either dutifully following orders or quitting. the idea that the military will refuse trump is absolutely not couched in reality.
You have a mioptic view of the universe of options. Expecting the established systems that have literally failed at every opportunity to somehow put a check on trump is fool hardy.
If you want him stopped you will have to stop him.
It won’t be China or Russia the only two military powers that have a chance to have any influence on CONUS affairs.
Maybe his desperate desire for public approval as I suspect major ordinance dropped on a US population center isn’t going to poll well, but I’d hate to count on that.
Me? Stop the president from doing literally anything? You vastly over estimate my powers.
You need hundreds of people all working together to drop a bomb on a US city. Commanders, officers, maintenance workers, ordinance loaders, pilots, navigators, even base MPs.
You really think you can get all of these people to agree to drop a bomb on a civilian US city, just on a Trump whim?
Arguing with US nationalism is fucking merry-go-round. They’re always expecting that one hero that’ll topple generations of conditioning, like a superman. When they’ve shown time and again they are very capable of horrible fucking shit throughout the history.
They act like their contrymen are somehow morally superior group of people who stopped killing civillians at Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria or even their own countrymen. History books say no, their policians hide the crimes (revealed years later) and these people still eat the propaganda for breakfast.
You mean like all of the air force brass, logistics commanders, pilots, all the way down to the MPs, who have been consistent in collaborating following illegal orders to fly black bagged and chained legal US residents that were refused due process to foreign concentration camps?
He is commander in chief of the US military.
The US military stresses disobeying illegal orders.
So the simple answer is the US military chain of command respecting their oath to the constitution over loyalty to Trump.
you mean all the ones hes fired? lol. people are fucking clueless.
The chain of command goes from the secretary of defense all the way down to the most junior enlisted personnel.
You seem to assume I meant the joint chiefs or some small hand full of senior commanders.
Generals don’t pull the trigger, and as someone else pointed out, the logistics involved with bombing a city includes hundreds of service members.
Not sure where you get off calling me clueless as my initial response exactly answers the original question.
If not for honorable service members respecting their oaths and the UCMJ, there is literally nothing stopping Trump from bombing Chicago or LA.
as i said people are clueless. pay attention to how people are actually behaving. most frontline individuals are either dutifully following orders or quitting. the idea that the military will refuse trump is absolutely not couched in reality.
If your point is that this mechanism won’t work, then I’m assuming your point is that nothing can stop Trump.
Doesn’t mean my answer was wrong or clueless, only that the means to stop him has failed.
If you think something else is stopping him, I’d be very curious what that might be.
You have a mioptic view of the universe of options. Expecting the established systems that have literally failed at every opportunity to somehow put a check on trump is fool hardy.
If you want him stopped you will have to stop him.
Well, let’s see.
It won’t be his moral fiber.
It won’t be China or Russia the only two military powers that have a chance to have any influence on CONUS affairs.
Maybe his desperate desire for public approval as I suspect major ordinance dropped on a US population center isn’t going to poll well, but I’d hate to count on that.
Me? Stop the president from doing literally anything? You vastly over estimate my powers.
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The chances of me personally firebombing anything is functionally 0.
I certianly expect someone else to handle this for me, the men and women of the US military who aren’t going to a US city into fucking Dresden.
My suggestion was to rely on the mechanism which has handled this type of issue without fail since day one.
Yours is to encite random acts of partisan violence.
I’m going stick with my plan thanks.
You need hundreds of people all working together to drop a bomb on a US city. Commanders, officers, maintenance workers, ordinance loaders, pilots, navigators, even base MPs.
You really think you can get all of these people to agree to drop a bomb on a civilian US city, just on a Trump whim?
Come now.
Relying on trained people to not do the thing they’re trained for strikes me as a bad plan.
The smaller the pieces you divide a job into, the less likely that any of the individual steps understand the entire process.
You tell one guy to bomb NYC, he’s going to stop and think about that.
You tell a hundred people to push a few buttons, and they’re just doing their job.
Literally exactly what will happen. you’re assuming the people who would object would remain in these organizations. they wont.
Many of these people are trying to do their 20 and get out with retirement. They’re not going to quit like it’s a shit job at McDonald’s.
Then you can expect them to do as ordered, no? Since refusal would result in a discharge and loss of said benefits.
Think people this isnt that hard to follow the logical conclusion.
I highly recommend you arm yourself or leave the country.
Arguing with US nationalism is fucking merry-go-round. They’re always expecting that one hero that’ll topple generations of conditioning, like a superman. When they’ve shown time and again they are very capable of horrible fucking shit throughout the history.
They act like their contrymen are somehow morally superior group of people who stopped killing civillians at Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria or even their own countrymen. History books say no, their policians hide the crimes (revealed years later) and these people still eat the propaganda for breakfast.
You mean like all of the air force brass, logistics commanders, pilots, all the way down to the MPs, who have been consistent in collaborating following illegal orders to fly black bagged and chained legal US residents that were refused due process to foreign concentration camps?
Yes, but no.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TwPLqGkYnBA&pp=0gcJCfwAo7VqN5tD