This is why stuff like this should not be privately controlled and people and companies with more money and power than whole nations. It’s wrong and not supposed to allow this with laws against monopolies, but failed again and the rich do what they want.
Those aren’t “peace” talks. They are temporary limited capitulation talks.
I am not sure about the “temporary” and “limited” though. Also, it is not just about Ukraine. The Russian regime obviously wants to talk about splitting up entire Europe between itself and the US, without anyone from the EU at the table, obviously.
Exactly, I think we are in agreement here - a truce handing Crimea, Donbas, and Luhansk to Russia as their newly undisputed territories would most certainly not create a political atmosphere stopping any future Russian actions over territories in Moldova, Georgia, Estonia and even into Latvia, Lithuania & Poland.
Especially if part of the deal is a amputating NATO in all the countries Russia plans to invade next.
sure would be a shame if a wild Luigi appeared.
Sure would be nice if we held Elon accountable for his war crime. But that’s crazy talk…
another reason on why we should not trust and rely on big tech and should restrict their power.
Wow. Elon is making an exellent argument on why nobody should rely on anything related to him or Starlink.
Starlink should be nationalized
I agree but atm that would be control by Trump
Or tech controlled by another nation. Lots of work to do.
Anything/anyone from the US, really.
Nationalize it.
To Europe.
How do you not understand the meaning of the word nationalize?
My gut reaction is that you’re American and the classic ignorant and dumb so you think Europe is a country.
I didn’t and don’t care about the word nationalise in this case. the U.S.A has demonstrated it cannot be trusted. Midterms did not change that. No single nation should wield such power anyway.
Europe is not a country.
Also having the EU run startlink for Ukraine seems like a terrible idea, support for Ukraine is wavering across several countries.
I’d rather a specific nation that has shown willing to support Ukraine in the long run to run it, Sweden, Finland and Norway are good candidates.
That kind of infrastructure is too massive for those countries. EU is the best bet. The EU will run it, but on behalf of its member states and a major stake holder is Poland. If Poland starts serving Russian interests all is lost anyway.
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There’s other providers. ViaSat is one. Amazon Leo is another. So this is being announced as a message to Musk/Trump/Putin. But I don’t know, perhaps Trump has organized competitors be turned lff, or forbidden them?
I’ve seen Eutelsat mentioned as a European competitor, wiki says they mostly handle TV transmissions but “also serve […] mobile communications, Internet backbone connectivity and broadband access for terrestrial, maritime and in-flight applications”.
I’m not sure why they wouldn’t be able to provide Ukraine what they need, I don’t know if they are at the same technical level as starlink or not. That wiki page also says “As of March 2025, the company stated that it offers the same capacities as Starlink in Europe. However the operation of Eutelsat terminals is many times more expensive than that of Starlink.”
Watch this be because Starshield is reliant on Microsoft systems…
Oh shi
We need non-US controlled alternatives.
Maybe outsourcing national defense was a bad idea and the US should seize Starshield from Space Karen
Technically the US government does retain legal control over Starshield. Whether or not they have material control is unclear
Of course they have material control. Musk doesn’t have a private army. Unfortunately the gov’t is working for and with Musk.
Exactly. The Trump administration is fully responsible for this, legally and morally. And Republicans in Congress are also fully responsible, for failing to impeach Trump and Hegseth over this.
If one was trying to pretend that Russia were in charge here, while not being too overt about it… How would they do this differently?
It’s important to remember the baseline while the zone is flooded.
