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    2 days ago

    I’ve been avoiding Catalan products for so long that checking the labels is second nature to me now. I simply added USA to the list. It’s really easy to find alternatives or just not buy something.

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            There’s strong nationalist movement fighting for independence from Spain there. The nationalists took over the local government and a lot of local institutions (police, education, all sorts of associations and clubs). Fortunately so far they didn’t resort to terrorism like the Basques before them but they are often violent and illegally financed (defrauding public money, Russia is also supporting them). They promote internal divisions, discriminate people who don’t support independence and destabilize national politics. In the end it’s all about money. They basically want fiscal privileges at the cost of rest of Spain. They use revenue generated by Catalan businesses as one of their arguments so the best thing you can do is to not let your money flow there.

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            Catalonia is a Spanish region, but there’s a movement that really wants the region to be independent. To basically become its own country.

            There have been numerous referendums, protests and all manner of political intrigue.

            Now, some people will of course be very much against this region separating from Spain for any number of reasons. It would create economic uncertainty, and adds new barriers. Even within the region not everyone is a fan of independence.

            So yeah, that poster might feel particularly strongly about wanting to keep that region, or just a particular dislike for them.

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              Sounds like a good thing to me. If they don’t want to be part of Spain you shouldn’t send in the police to beat them and spy on their phones.

              That’s worse.

              Much worse.

              You’re on the wrong side of this. Pro independence. Fuck people who just assume they own your ass.

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                I’m not on any side, merely stating the arguments used.

                In general, I agree with you. If that region chooses to separate, they should be allowed to do so. Much like the Brexit.

                But like Brexit has shown, separation also brings some complex issues. And we are talking about something that impacts at least the 8 million people living there, a lot of whom don’t WANT to separate.

                There really should be an independent, internationally monitored referendum to settle this matter and let the people decide what they want, without interference from outside the region.

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              Yea I’ve read of that. It was actually Russian psyops that exacerbated the tensions, in a period where they were meddling in Britain for Brexit

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            And what products do they produce in Barcelona anyway?

            Less and less fortunately because a lot of companies moved production or at least fiscal residence in recent years. Still a lot of cosmetics are from Catalonia, a lot of food used to be made there (Nocilla, cola-cao), wine… A lot of online stores are based there so I also check were those are located before ordering anything.