I’m not sure we can understand the information environment folks are livin in enough to be confident making fun of how they see things.

It’d be like going to North Korea and making fun of locals for being pro Kim Jong Un. It’s just a bit in poor taste.

Edit: grammar

Better late than never

I’m not saying everything can be ranked.

I understood your response to my last comment as a rebuttle to the idea that “any moral formula is shit from the perspective of another legit moral framework”

Therefore I assumed you thought that there is some way to objectively say, “killing people is better than not killing people.” Which even though I agree with it, I’ve found I can’t prove it without using an axiom that is just my feelings.

I think as a society we would need to understand consciousness to be able to have any hope of discovering an objective morality.

There is a gray zone, there is an acceptable zone, and there is a line, which always must exist, and when anyone crosses it, they must be removed from society.

I mean yeah I agree. It would be energy intensive to try and allow everything, so obviously we don’t allow anyone to do anything. That would be unstable. But that doesn’t prove that we have objective reasons for where we draw lines. It’s all just power and negotiation.

Preaching hate on innocents is not legally forbidden (well, depends on the country), but it is morally wrong.

I said something similar earlier. Glad we are all sane here.

I think objective morality gives blind spots because it can be a bit thought terminating. If you keep asking why something is good or bad, you’ll eventually find yourself at an assumption that isn’t really better than, “thats just what I feel”.

But also I get it if you don’t see it that way. I couldn’t make the phrase “good and bad are two sides of the same coin” be anything but a lie for a few years. And maybe I’m just crazy for having that make sense to me now.

But I really think that value systems and world views can’t be ranked in a vaccume. Therefore I don’t see any objectiveness.

Now hold up. We’ll start having too much fun with relativism if you keep talking like that.

But even being a relativist, I find being a utilitarian is really helpful for actually interacting with the world. It’s just that whatever formula you use will always be shit from the perspective of another totally legit value system.

All that to say: Yeah I agree, doesn’t matter if he thought he was Jesus. He was causing real harm to people.

I guess we are supposed to submit old charlie kirk posts?

He can have one day off for each famous right wing speaker merc’ed

This is my favorite one yet

Honestly impressed Wendy’s would consider serving such an item later

That author seems to post 3 articles a day. I mean they obviously arent researched passion projects, but that quota is wild. How much can you really understand in a third of a work day?

He’s a great agent. It was real savy of trump to buy a teen pageant and then publicly brag about molesting pageant girls. Great undercover work, that’d convince anyone he’s a pedophile.

(/s)

Never change lemmy