What’s that? Did you say you needed an RDBMS that can also handle JSON data? Well have I got good news for you!
Mysql / Mari can handle it too! Just use BLOB 🤣
This is literally me at every possible discussion regarding any other RDBMS.
My coworkers joked that I got paid for promoting Postgres.
Then we switched from Percona to Patroni and everyone agreed that… fuck yes, PostgreSQL is the best.
After having suffered with T SQL at MSFT for a number of years… yep, PostGres is almost always the best for almost any enterprise setup, despite what most other corpos seem to think.
Usually their reasons for not using it boil down to:
We would rather pay exorbitant licescing fees of some kind, forever, than rework a few APIs.
Those few APIs already having a fully compatible rewrite, done by me, working in test, prior to that meeting.
Gotta love corpo logic.
Yes, had those issues as well, though lately not a big corp, but mid-sized company.
One manager just wanted MySQL. We had trouble getting required performance from MySQL, when Postgres had good numbers. I had the app fully ready, just to be told no, you make it work in MySQL. So we dropped some ‘useless stuff’ like deferring flushing to disk and such.
Sure, once you make the move it’s great. It’s just that it takes time and resources to actually make the move
I mean, with mysql_fwd, I migrated the data quickly, and apart from manual ‘on duplicate update’ queries (or rare force index) it works the same.
As a (data) scientist I am not super familiar with most databases, but duckdb is great for what I need it for.
Things happen magically with docker. Container needs PostgreSQL? Expose the port, define a volume, username and password, connect service to that port, forget PostgreSQL’s existence until data corruption.
forget PostgreSQL’s existence until data corruption.
Oh, so about 2 hours then LMAO
No need. It’s the best DB… Until you need something portable
My laptops runs postgres, but it is still pretty portable
What do you mean by “portable”?
Just if you need to be able to take it with you.
The whole point of a database is that you leave it where it is though
I think the OP is trying to talk about SQLite, so yeah, he could really be talking about carrying it on his phone.
But it’s just such a weird word to use there that I can’t really be sure.
Or portable like on a USB stick that you can put in any computer instead of installed on a single system.
Either way, the funny thing is that Postgres can do both too. You may not want to use it for those, but you absolutely can.
Ohhhh right, that’s the base part right?
I’m running it on a raspberry pi, how much more portable could you need?
first thing i’d ask it is how to pronounce SQL
Yup, and it’s S-Q-L not sequel (🤢)
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I’ve been working on and with sql dbs since… 2011?
Earlier than that if you don’t count professional work.
Always pronounced it Sequel, as has everyone I have worked with, at least of those who actually have some kind of software dev related role.
Its got two syllables.
Quicker and easier to say than three syllables.
It isn’t pronounceable as a word, it is an initialism because the letters that compromise it do not allow it to be pronounced as a word. Unlike something like NASA which is a full blown acronym because it can be pronounced
Do you say hetips for HTTPS?
The sequel thing didn’t even start naturally, it picked up this sequel moniker because of some ancient trademark beef in the 70s between the original devs when it was named “Sequel” and some company (That isn’t even in business anymore)
They renamed it SQL and out of protest against the company people continued to call it sequel even though it makes no sense and 50 damn years later here we are. Everybody involved with direct involvement is probably dead or longggg since retired. It wasn’t termed because it was easier to say and it sure as hell wasn’t termed because its proper.
If it was originally called SQL and the above never happened, I guarantee it would just be another DNS or HTTP and many many pointless debates about it would have never happened
Disclaimer, this doesn’t apply to the MS product that is called sequel
Do you say hetips for HTTPS?
No, because there isn’t an easily pronouncable equivalent word that already exists in english.
The sequel thing didn’t even start naturally, it picked up this sequel moniker because of some ancient trademark beef in the 70s between the original devs when it was named “Sequel” and some company (That isn’t even in business anymore)
They renamed it SQL and out of protest against the company people continued to call it sequel even though it makes no sense and 50 damn years later here we are.
Yep, and I’ve worked with a bunch of old timers who were around when that happened, and picked up their pronunciation.
If it was originally called SQL and the above never happened, I guarantee it would just be another DNS or HTTP and many many pointless debates about it would have never happened.
I mean, I am not … debating in the sense of ‘my way is objectively correct and everyone ahould say it this way’.
Obviously I know what anyone means if they say S Q L and this does not bother me, I just am used to more commonly saying it as Sequel.
Though it is worth mentioning that… history did in fact happen, the original name was SEQUEL, for Structured English QUEry Language, and it had to be changed because a small aircraft company happened to already own the trademark for ‘SEQUEL’.
Disclaimer, this doesn’t apply to the MS product that is called sequel.
Ah, well perhaps that explains why I am so used to the Sequel pronunciation;
I used to work for MSFT, and a number of other Seattle area companies with siginifcant SQL database backends…
… and, given that Seattle was mainly known for Boeing before it was mainly known for Microsoft and Amazon and Starbucks, it does make sense that Seattle area old timers would get pissed over a rival, foreign aircraft company (Hawker Siddely, later merged into BAE) forcing a name change of the software they routinely use.
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EDIT: So basically, it actually was originally an acroynm, and then got forced to become an initialism, and most the people I’ve worked with and learned from remember when it just was a pronouncable acronym.
I just view it as a pointless 50 year old squabble, it’s current name is SQL to me so S-Q-L it is, ig I didn’t have “old timers” to corrupt me during the formative years of my career though so maybe that’s why.
Regardless, my real beef in this is if someone makes hiring/firing/promotion decisions based on that. Like a fun office debate about it, cool, it’s whatever. Choosing not to hire or promote someone over something so petty is asinine IMO
I just view it as a pointless 50 year old squabble, it’s current name is SQL to me so S-Q-L it is, ig I didn’t have “old timers” to corrupt me during the formative years of my career though so maybe that’s why.
I mean hey, there ya go!
Regardless, my real beef in this is if someone makes hiring/firing/promotion decisions based on that. Like a fun office debate about it, cool, it’s whatever. Choosing not to hire or promote someone over something so petty is asinine IMO
Oh I completely, 1 million percent agree, and that kind of bullshit was a huge factor in why I left MSFT and went to work for other places, rofl!
Way, waaaaay too many coked up MBAs with tiny small dick syndrome, who compensate by developing a god complex and constantly shaming people over not knowing all the latest buzzwords, which they often themselves just literally heard for the first time in their previous meeting.
Do you say hetips for HTTPS?
No but now I want to start (though I’d go hittips instead, and its insecure alternative, hittip). HTTPS has always been a mouthful lol
Sequel with external collaborators.
Squeal with the homies.
15 years ago I called it S-Q-L and then I was told that it’s wrong and it’s “Sequel”, and they kept calling it Sequel in college so for the past 10 years I’ve called it Sequel, My-Sequel, Sequel-lite, Postgres, transact-sequel, etc. Now y’all are telling me it’s not Sequel
That’s easy, but PostgreSQL is pronounced Postgres-Q-L.
