• jaschen@lemm.ee
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        2 days ago

        I’m no pedo, but what you do in your own home and hurts nobody is your own thing.

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      Making a photo of a child based off of real photos in a sexual manner is essentially using said child in the training data as the one in the act…

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        But who is actually getting hurt? No kid has gotten hurt using Gen AI.

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          21 hours ago

          A child whose abuse images are used to generate AI CP can be re-victimized by it, without even getting at the issues with normalizing it.

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      Are you suggesting that this particular type of CP should be acceptable? (And suddenly “but I used AI” becomes a popular defence.)

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        No cp should be acceptable. But I argue AI generated isn’t cp.

        This is no different than someone cutting out a child’s head from a Target catalog and sticking it to a body on a playboy magazine and masturbating to it.

        Or someone using Photoshoping a kids head to a pornographic photo.

        It’s just a more accessible version of those examples.

        At the end of the day, what you do in your own home is your thing. t’s not my business what you do. As long as it doesn’t hurt/affect anyone, go ahead.

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          I almost respect you for taking a stance so blatantly against what most people believe.

          Almost.

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        Gen AI doesn’t take cp content and recreates it. There wouldn’t be a point of gen AI if that is the case. It knows what regular porn looks like and what a child looks like and it generates an image. With those inputs it can create something new and at the same time hurt nobody.

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          Prove it. Please, show me the full training data to guarantee you’re right.

          But also, all the kids used for “kids face data” didn’t sign up to be porn

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            I don’t need to. It’s is just the way gen AI works. It takes images of things it knows and then generates NEW content based on what it think you want with your prompts.

            If I’m looking for a infant flying an airplane, gen AI knows what a pilot looks like and what a child looks like and it creates something new.

            Also kids face data doesn’t mean they take the actual face of the actual child and paste it on a body. It might take an eyebrow and a freckle from one kidand use a hair style from another and eyes from someone else.

            Lastly, the kids parents consented when they upload images of their kids on social media.

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                What AI are you talking about? Are you suggesting the commercial models from OpenAI are trained using CP? Or just that there are some models out there that were trained using CP? Because yeah, anyone can create a model at home and train it with whatever. But suggesting that OpenAI has a DB of tagged CP is a different story.

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                  Open AI just scours the Internet. 100% chance it’s come across someone illegal and horrible. They don’t pre-approve its training data.