Google’s Android, the world’s most widely used mobile operating system, started life as open-source software. In its quest for ever-greater profits, the tech giant has been gradually eroding Android’s open-source nature over the last decade.

Originally published on The Lever, but that one asks you to sign up.

  • youmaynotknow@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    5
    ·
    10 hours ago

    2 days ago I moved from GrapheneOS back to Stock Pixel in my 8 Pro, just to see what all the hype about the new android 16 in Pixel is about. Jesus, this is way worse than I remember. i tried it for 2 whole days, and that shit just won’t allow me to have ANY control over my phone. It’s fucking ridiculous. On Android 15 I was able to uninstall Google Drive, Meet, Youtube, and many other Google apps, this time around all it would allow was “disable”. What’s next, removing the ability to disable (which I don’t trust anyway)?

    Fast forward to today, I’m back on GOS, and my anxiety levels are down again. This shit is insane, and I honestly can’t understand why anyone would put up with this crap.

  • BilboBargains@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    22
    ·
    19 hours ago

    The obfuscated nature of compiled code does an incredible amount of heavy lifting on behalf of shareholders. Imagine a world where x-ray specs suddenly revealed source code. The flight to open solutions would be irresistible. Windows is hot garbage but it clings to its market share like a limpet, through the magic of closed source, occupying space like a flabby tumour. It doesn’t care if it kills the host because the top priority is growth and an unassailable market share. That’s the magic of capitalism.

  • Canuck@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    12
    ·
    17 hours ago

    Mobile GNU/Linux is getting better, but I think it is 5-10 years out from what’s needed. I suppose people need to adopt Desktop first. The nice thing is you can install Android apps including Google Play on it natively, and they appear in your app drawer like a regular app

    • seralth@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      21 minutes ago

      Unless they get NFC payments working on it and banking apps. It literally will never matter.

      The single most common thing phones are used for at this point outside of entertainment is payments and banking.

    • douglasg14b@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      14
      ·
      edit-2
      16 hours ago

      It’s a bit of a catch honestly.

      OSS/community Linux graphical environments have kind of always been ~5 years out from what’s needed. 15 years ago they were behind ~5 years, 5 years ago they where behind ~5 years.

      The only difference is today. I think they’re only behind by ~3-4 years thanks to the backwards movement of things like Windows and OSx staleness.

      Mobile operating systems are in a worse place.

    • TeddE@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      12 hours ago

      I just saw KDE Bigscreen got reboot. While it’s not exactly the same (its for TVs, like Android TV and Steam Big Picture mode), it’s nice to see major desktop environments(DE) adopt new UI features for small and large devices. This compliments work done by groups like PinePhone, who laid the groundwork for Linux phones.

  • Zink@programming.dev
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    17 hours ago

    I find myself using desktop Linux more than my mobile device, even on the couch with the family. Monitors on arms that can swing out of the way ftw. No cute advice for keyboards though. We have wireless ones around but I still use my wired Deck Legend on my lap. It’s an old mechanical keyboard that’s built like a tank, with the PCB literally mounted to a sheet of metal that is mounted inside the housing, lol.

    It’s almost a shame, because smart phones are still absolutely amazing to me as far as the amount of scientific and technical advancement that can fit in the palm of your hand. But I look forward to the open options various parties are working on.

  • ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    42
    ·
    1 day ago

    android peaked with the pixel 2. then everyone went overboard on bezel-less displays and fast refresh rates and smart assistant services and brought the whole damn thing crashing down.

    • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      17
      ·
      1 day ago

      I don’t think the issue with phones is the smaller bezels or better displays.

      That’s not what’s ruining them.

  • AbidanYre@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    24
    ·
    1 day ago

    Up until about two weeks ago I could use wallet on my rooted pixel with lineage and play integrity fix.

    Some recent change on their end and it doesn’t work at all anymore. I guess they don’t want to know what I’m buying.

  • SeeFerns@programming.dev
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    13
    ·
    1 day ago

    I really want to try a pinephone or something with Ubuntu touch. It’s likely not daily driver ready but I’m still curious at how far along it is.

    • utopiah@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      1 day ago

      Can’t speak for Ubuntu Touch but tried PostMarketOS on PinePhone and PinePhone Pro.

      The PP works well, good support for most things included SIM, camera, BT, etc but it’s big and bulky, also IMHO not powerful enough for Waydroid so no Android apps, “just” Linux. Relying on the browser to avoid using app is rarely practical as it’s too slow.

      The PPPro being more powerful should cover the gap… but some lack of support, specifically the camera, makes it tricky as daily driver.

      Both PP and PPPro don’t have great battery and/or power management so you can go through a day of usage, barely, and you might get stuck in a cycling loop if you depleted it entirely. That means also as daily driver, if you are not very cautious, it’s tricky.

      So… we are nearly there but unless you have a very VERY minimum usage of your phone, basically a dumb phone with a bit of CLI to remote connect to your own server from time to time, it’s probably not practical for now.

      Maybe the Liberux NEXX thanks to its power would have closed the gap but the failed crowd funding campaign shows that price point does not have a market fit right now.

      • SeeFerns@programming.dev
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        18 hours ago

        Thanks for the write up! It honestly sounds like it’s be fine for me. My iPhone is already extremely bare and stripped down. I barely use the camera too, so like, idk I don’t feel like I’d be missing much?

        If I could buy a super cheap used one for testing, I’d do it. I’m waiting for my iPhone SE to die on me anyways before making the switch.

  • VicksVaporBBQrub@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    22
    ·
    1 day ago

    Can I get a rundown of the few non-flagship phonemakers that are currently out there? I have heard of The Nothing Phone. Are there more companies that put together Androids to operate within the US?

    • rozodru@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      23 hours ago

      one of the best products Microsoft ever produced. I absolutely LOVED my old Lumia. great phone, the OS was perfect, just an awesome all around phone. wish I still had it.

  • ExLisperA
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    5
    ·
    1 day ago

    Two most important open source projects right now are PostmarketOS and Servo.

  • Valmond@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    1 day ago

    I’m on hyperos and every time I have to touch anything pure Google I feel like I’m on a windows PC.

    Don’t get me wrong, hyperos isn’t a pinnacle of freedom, but all I do with my phone is basically using Firefox and take photos (+ signal, & SMS) and use the lichess app.

    It’s so infuriating, they steal our data, but just needs more. I’ll try a Linux FOSS system next phone.