• raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world
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      I am fully aware what some people use, but it is a made-up word of the English language and I won’t apply it to myself. I don’t have a problem with people using it, but it’s not my vocabulary. It neither has an inherent sense, nor does it have any added value in most context. I respect that it helps to normalize specifying whatever gender one associates with when “cis” people also do it, as opposed to only having trans / non-binary people to specify “what” they identify as. But my solidarity extends only to full acceptance and tolerance, not to changing how I “identify” myself :p

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          No, that part (cis) is a prefix and means “on this side of”. And for “on this side of gender” to mean what cisgender is used as, is a newly agreed-upon thing in the evolution of LGBTQ culture.

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            But when you say things like ‘“non-trans” normal person’ it sounds like you’re saying it isn’t normal to be trans. Why not just say “non-trans” or “cis” instead of saying “normal person”?

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                Well it certainly contributes to othering the people you don’t view as “normal”. Don’t use cis, whatever, but paired with you saying you specifically know cis is a term and you specifically choose not to use it, calling cis people normal certainly sounds transphobic. You’re following the conservative’s playbook. Don’t say cis people are the “normal” ones.

                America has a majority of white people living there. Could you imagine if people started calling white people “normal”? The words you choose have consequences.

                Again, I can’t make this clear enough, this isn’t some bullshit purity test. If you don’t wanna use the term cis to describe yourself, so be it, but don’t use normal. Especially when you’re already willing to use non-trans. Solidarity isn’t othering the persecuted.

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                    Don’t call yourself an ally if you call cis people “non trans normal people” while knowing and refusing to use the term cis. You getting so defensive about this really illustrates to me that your allyship stops when it’s inconvenient. This all began because I saw you use some very strange phrasing so I just wanted to let you know that, hey, instead of the harmful mouthful that is “non trans normal person” you can just say cis. Lo and behold, you know the term. Okay, sure, fine, but just calling it “made up”? Never once asked you to say cis. Was just telling you that it’s a word that exists. It never was a problem in my eyes that you didn’t say cis, it was a problem that you said normal.

                    Let me make myself clear one last time. I don’t care if you don’t say cis. I’d like you to, I think you should, but it’s not anywhere close to the same as saying cis is normal and trans isn’t.

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        but it is a made-up word of the English language

        Interesting, because every word you’ve used is made-up word of the English language.