In so many of the contrarian responses I’m seeing, I’m reminded of Fisher:
it’s easier to imagine the end of the world than it is to imagine the end of capitalism.
That is to say that so many cannot escape the capitalist framework of productive workers supporting the elderly. As though that’s the only way society can possibly be organized.
Retirees are not seen as deserving of their reward, but rather a drain on productive labor. It’s no wonder that there is so little sympathy for the destitute and homeless when those who’ve “earned” their leisure are still known as parasites.
How do you imagine a world of caring for those who cannot care for themselves without people to care for them?
We’re talking about population decline, not disappearance.
All they say is that decline is only a problem in capitalism
In a socialist utopia that means a larger burden for the population to share which leads to further population decline
They never mentioned how they would remedy that and neither did you
Ok, I’d remedy that by not giving all the wealth to the wealthy, and transfering it to the caring progefessions and to the retirees themselves, so that they could live a decent life.
Unless you expect people to work until they drop dead it’s a crisis regardless of the economic system, especially coupled with the increases in life expectancy. You have fewer and fewer people of working age who have to provide for and take care of more and more old people for longer and longer. Even if you eliminate profit motives, you’re placing an outsized burden on younger generations.
