• Tedesche@lemmy.world
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    No, he’s trying to win for his own ambition of power. Calling him a Nazi collaborator for that is idiotic. Just because what he’s doing helps Nazis doesn’t make him a collaborator. Grow the fuck up.

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            And anyone with the slightest support of them here is called a genocide supporter. Your point?

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              And anyone with the slightest support of them here is called a genocide supporter.

              Unconditional genocide support certainly wasn’t a dealbreaker for them, was it?

              Your point?

              The point that you’re deliberately pretending to miss in typical centrist bad faith is this: During the 2024 election, anyone who didn’t like the genocide and suggested that democrats didn’t represent them was immediately called a trump supporter. Certainly anyone who suggested voting third party was, on the grounds that any vote not cast for harris was somehow a vote for trump.

              But now that the candidate is a progressive, voting third party is perfectly fine by the same people. If I were to apply centrists’ spurious logic to this situation, you want sliwa to win.

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                Unconditional genocide support certainly wasn’t a dealbreaker for them, was it?

                If that’s what you think Biden’s or Kamala’s position was, you’re as biased as the opposition, and I think I’m done with you because of it. You’re not going to convince me of anything when you’ve demonstrated you have no perspective.

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                  If that’s what you think Biden’s or Kamala’s position was

                  They placed no conditions on arms sales for netanayhu’s genocide. That’s called unconditional support.

                  You’re not going to convince me of anything when you’ve demonstrated you have no perspective.

                  there’s no convincing you of anything that runs contrary to the netanyahu wing of the party.

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      Y’all spent all general shouting how a vote for anyone other than Kamala was a vote for Trump and how those running third party campaigns are just helping Trump win.

      Now that the shoe is on the other foot, third party candidates aren’t working for the other side?

      “A vote for Cuomo is a vote for Sliwa.”.

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      If he knows what he is doing cannot possibly lead to his own success, splitting the blue vote can’t lead to him winning, then he is deliberately trying to put the nazis in power over his citizens knowing some of them will be harmed. He’s absolutely a collaborator.

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        I’m sure he thinks he can win. But even if he didn’t, that doesn’t make him a collaborator. You misunderstand the term. It requires intent. You’re just trying to stack the deck by polarizing it. And I’m sure you think you’re doing the right thing. It’s just that your willful ignorance about the semantics of the term you’re using is harmful. Casting Cuomo as a Nazi gains you nothing but self-righteous purpose. Your cause isn’t righteous, no more than any other cause. You’re just an ideologue of a particular stripe. Have fun being that. From what I hear, it’s a lonely existence.

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          Nobody who splits his own sides vote can win mathematically. To simplify you need side /2 - loss from infighting > opposition.

          By continuing to shit on your own side you tend not only to draw votes for yourself you tend to decrease turnout, enthusiasm, and tell the other sides story for them. All with zero hope of actually winning because you will never out earn the default party vote. EG if just 10% just vote for the official party members it doesn’t matter if you convince 55% of the remaining side to side with you you’ve already lost.

          This is why this strategy hasn’t worked this century.

          Please pray tell when has a major election been won by a fellow running against his own side? Be specific. Remember major impact elections like Mayor of NYC +