Ugh, I wish this guy wasn’t so problematic. I really did enjoy his off hand type of humor.
I am not sure who this guy is, or why we aren’t more open to separating the work from the artist; seems to be a kind of ad hominem. If you don’t want to give them money for the work you can still buy second hand or just pirate.
why we aren’t more open to separating the work from the artist
Because we shouldn’t?
We shouldn’t support pieces of shit. Not with our eyes. Not with our ears. Not with our dollars or our attention. Its not like there aren’t hundreds of thousands of other hilarious people who aren’t pieces of shit. Its not like we don’t have literally PLENTY of other options.
That is kind of a weak argument. I think lovecraft’s work is a decent read, and he is influential and referenced. Still, I am not saying we should adopt his work view. JK Rowing is similar. Her books got lots of kids interested in reading and there is a good message about who you grow up to be. Again, not saying we should adopt her world views. You can pirate their works or find them second hand.
Ages ago, politics was a matter of “Well, we both want to improve the country, but it seems we disagree on the approach.”
Now, politics is “I would like to improve the country” vs “I would like OVER HALF THE COUNTRY TO GET FUCKED IN THE ASS because they’re all LEECHES AND FILTHY RATS. Just look at these studies that are all blatantly hallucinated lies I made up.”
I long for the old conversation.
I think this is just a difference on the form, and not on the content.
When over half of the country is actually ducked in the ass because of either poor working conditions, womens absence of right, slavery, etc., saying “I don’t think we should change anything” seems like a calm way to say “we disagree on how to improve the country” when really it’s just saying “i want people to get fucked”. Betterment, even little, of life for those people makes assholes say out loud the hate they could hide in the statu quo previously.
“Well, we both want to improve the country”
Did they though?
One of the most consistent features of conservative “politics” is their ability to get lots of ordinary people to vote against their own interests.
Sure it was nice when the rank and file weren’t cheering on the New American Gestapo (good band name?) but the money > humans goals behind the policies were the same. The bigotry and tribalism and other-ing have always been tools in their propaganda machine. We’re witnessing those chickens coming home to roost.
Who could have known it would be a bad idea to systematically poison american culture so that a handful of old white dudes could hang on to the dream of dying as billionaires instead of pleb-ass run of the mill multimillionaires?
deleted by creator
Isn’t this johntron? He came up with some white suprematist arguments a while ago. But seeing how we have mechahitler AI I actually think it was a decent time to be online.
His name is/was JonTron IIRC.
I stop being able to separate the art from the artist when they start using their platform to push their views. Which is what he did. If you are famous and you never mention your ideology then more power to you but when you go on a tirade during an interview about something else you lose that separation.
See also: Michael Richards
First time I am hearing about this guy, but
I stop being able to separate the art from the artist when they start using their platform to push their views.
fair enough.
Hey internet: this right here ^ is how you respond when you encounter new information after a disagreement. It’s totally okay to admit not having known something before. You don’t have to double-down on your ignorance or go off at some stranger.
We’re all just people, learning all the time. It’s cool.
Anyway, thanks for responding like a reasonable person, OP.
99% of my problems can be resolved by money. So there’s that
I’d rather cry in a Rolls Royce than at the bus stop
Really says more about the disdain for western public transportation.
I’ll take coach seats on the Shinkansen over the driver’s seat of a Ferrari.
Brother, I think being rolled down the street by a sumo wrestler is a better experience than most public transport around here
Worse ways to get rolled.
Money may not buy happiness, but it can buy a jetski, and have you ever seen someone look sad on a jetski?
I speak from personal experience. It’s impossible to be sad on a (working) jet ski.
Money, so they say
Is the root of all evil today
But if you ask for a rise
It’s no surprise
that they’re giving none away
I love this quote from Mr. Robot (paraphrase):
I don’t care about money, as long as it’s enough to live.
Reminder! If your utopia relies on everyone giving up their power peacefully, it is bound to fail. :)
The more money they have, the less happy they are. They’re addicted to making money, to watching the line go up and to the right. They’re addicted to trying to destroy the competition and buy them out, to consolidate more and more and more.
They are right when they say that wealth isn’t the key to happiness. They’re riding the bull and they don’t know how to get off.
It may not buy happiness, but it sure as hell removes a lot of obstacles to happiness!
No, but having enough money buys financial security to do what you want.
