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unglueclass23@programming.dev to Privacy@programming.devEnglish · 2 months ago

Motorola’s GrapheneOS phones will launch in 2027 priced higher than Pixels

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unglueclass23@programming.dev to Privacy@programming.devEnglish · 2 months ago
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Motorola's GrapheneOS phones will launch in 2027 priced higher than Pixels
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The private Android-based OS will expand beyond Pixels next year.
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  • kalapala@sopuli.xyz
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    When I said I have high hopes I didn’t mean the price.

    • Newsteinleo@infosec.pub
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      In this day and age Motorola knows people will pay extra for privacy and the convenience of not having to install an OS on their phone.

      • TheLowestStone@lemmy.world
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        The phone won’t come with Graphene installed. It will just be capable of running it.

  • katy ✨@piefed.blahaj.zone
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    i mean everything would be higher than pixels because google heavily subsidises pixels to get their data collection in your hands.

    • chisel@piefed.social
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      They’re mid-tier hardware at flagship prices.

      • Lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        And they do the thing just fine.

        • jello@programming.dev
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          “the thing” being running GrapheneOS ofc

          • Lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            And also just being a decent smart phone.

        • exdor@programming.dev
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          Tbh I wouldnt call a Pixel 10 camera “just fine”, it is pretty damn impressive

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      I can’t complain. I love buying old pixels for $100.

      When you strip out the google bloat, they run great!

    • refalo@programming.dev
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      there are many decent smartphones available for less money than pixels though, even from motorola

      • exdor@programming.dev
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        Yeah and they are insecure and probably have very short and incomplete software updates

        Phones are sadly not general purpose computers

        • refalo@programming.dev
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          If they’re insecure then there is an easy way to exploit it to root/flash it with a better OS if that wasn’t already possible. Not everyone wants to drop $900 on a hunk of plastic.

          • exdor@programming.dev
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            It is easier to break something than to reverse engineer drivers and firmware and maintain yourself XD

            Also, firmware updates need to be signed so it is impossible to update, unless there is a really bad vulnerability

            And you can buy phones used, my most expensive one was under 400€

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    Will these still be considered “criminal phones” by the governments that already make that claim against GrapheneOS users?

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    Considering that GrapheneOS runs on devices as old and cheap as Pixel 6, and previously supported earlier versions too, the refusal to produce cheaper models seems almost malicious.

    GrapheneOS does not require fancy hardware besides a security chip.

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      Pixel 6 isn’t cheap.

      • Allero@lemmy.today
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        $200 for a new Pixel 6 in my area. The Motorola device described in the article is expected to come at $1000+.

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          Dont buy anything older than an 8 currently. Think about support lifespan, the Pixel 6 will be EOL in one month!

          https://endoflife.date/pixel

          https://resist.berlin/pixel-preise

          • Allero@lemmy.today
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            Indeed! I’d rather go for Pixel 8 and up, I merely mentioned that GrapheneOS does not need too fancy of a hardware.

            Neat table on that second link though! And actually comprehensible even without speaking much German lol

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      Well, their requirements increased since Pixels got arm memory tagging in the 8 generation. The 11 would be more secure than a 7 for example but they are still uncertain about supporting them, because it is a clear security downgrade

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    Saw this the other day. Bought a new battery for my nothing phone 1. Gonna install evolutionX vanilla tomorrow on it. Hopeful that it’ll last a couple of years more.

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      Pixel 6 is EOL in a month (or so). After that there will be no GrapheneOS support omce Google ends security updates on it. https://endoflife.date/pixel

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    deleted by creator

  • ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    I’ll buy one if it’s a flip.

    • leavemealone@sh.itjust.works
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      And if no one buys it, it will be a flop.

    • fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com
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      You want the Callback then

      https://commodore.net/callback/

      • ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Actually, I want my Razr+ to have GOS.

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