If you prefer a more positive spin: https://finance.yahoo.com/technology/ai/articles/advanced-driver-distraction-warning-systems-071000637.html
I read the other day that laws are being passed by people with chauffeurs for people who drive cars and I cant get that out of my mind.
That exactly is the problem with most laws passed these days. The political caste is so disconnected from normal everyday life of normal people that they aren’t even impacted directly by them anymore, so even if they wanted to, they can’t make normal laws for normal people.
You can thank the European car industry for this. They’ve lobbied for this to become law.
Probably, but it’s certainly more complicated. Fiat complained about the added cost of such systems. On the low budget end, this adds a noticeable chunk to the price. Bad for sales in the EU, added complications for export. I could imagine the “premium brands” like such regulations that remove some competition.
The yahoo post in OP is a press release by a Swedish tech company that makes such systems. They’re not exactly part of the car industry, but they claim to have lobbied for this.
The Italians cannot block something that the Germans and the French want.
Fiat is Stellantis, so technically Dutch-American
Notice how these “Liberals”, even after watching America fall to fascism and their own domestic resurgence, are continuing to implement all the tools necessary for big brother style totalitarianism? How they’re continuing to implement big brother FOR fascism?
It’s almost like they work for the same interests…
Are you using “liberal” in the US sense here or in the correct sense?
In the “illusion of democracy, while a capitalist plutocracy owns our political class” sense, which is the only correct one.
So “liberal” now means “the US political system”?
This is true across the developed world. Liberalism is fervently pro-capital, and results in a political class who are captured by the wealthiest; who operate on behalf of capital instead of the people, and run the country for-profit, like a business.
All developed economies have been backsliding in quality of life and standard of living for the last 30-60 years in a race to the bottom. The rich have gotten richer while the poor have gotten poorer. The US is just the furthest along the downward spiral, and an example of what will happen everywhere without significant change and resistance.
The ideology and the resulting power structures are not the same thing
A shame that most people don’t seem to grasp something so simple as that.
My 2001 car is looking more beautiful than ever
Cars built much later than 2010 are pretty much all piles of junk by design. Unrepairable, unmaintainable, technically owned by the manufacturers rather than their owners.
The 2 downvotes are automakers
Or professional enshittificators.
Given that my 2004 Chrysler had the battery behind the front wheel I’m gonna go ahead and need you to caveat that.
Some manufacturers were ahead of their time with enshittification.
Source?
Personal experience with cars built since the mid 1980s until now.
Not entirely true. The EU mandates a “driver drowsiness and attention warning”. It doesn’t mandate the use of cameras. The word “camera” is not mentioned.
The EU mandates this system to monitor gaze fixation points. Do you know any methods of determining gaze fixation point without using a camera? So sort of sensors attached directly to driver’s eyeballs maybe?
The EU obsession with expanding their surveillance state is insane.
Another reason not to get a car again!
Riding a motorcycle has never felt so free
Can’t I just tape the fucking camera? Whats the point of this?
No you can not. If you do, it will trigger an emergency stop after a minute.
And no, I am not kidding. I have tried this on a new car just a few days ago.
No you can not. If you do, it will trigger an emergency stop after a minute.
Bull. Shit. Why are people spreading those lies?
“Upon detection of permanent failure in the ADDW system, a constant visual failure warning signal shall be provided.”
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=intcom%3AC(2023)4523
Warning signal. That’s it.
Depends on the model I guess. In Renaults the car just complains.
Recently I accepted a new job, and it will come with a new company car.
If I happen to get a model that was sold after this rule goes into effect, I’m planning to tape off the camera.
Hopefully that should be enough to “fool” the systems in questionI hope you will enjoy the constant chime going off and the constant alerts on the dashboard
Don’t worry, taping the camera will result in the vehicle braking to standstill after a minute. (No joke…)
Duct tape has a new fan now.
This only works if the car drives at all without ‘detecting’ a driver.
You think nobody thought of that? The vehicle will refuse to drive if it can not see you.
Weird. Is this a typo? They must’ve written “mandate” where they meant “prohibit” or something.
Since July 7, all new vehicles must have an “advanced driver distraction warning” (ADDW) system. That means that there will be a (probably IR) camera constantly monitoring the driver. AI will assess if they are looking at the road and, depending on speed, give a warning if they don’t.
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=PI_COM%3AC(2023)4523
My cheap Suzuki Swift from last year has this already. It warns me when i look around, being tired and so on.
It is not very accurate i might add…
Time to continue not owning a car !
I like it! One more reasons for people to ditch cars!
On one hand I hate this idea.
On the other hand, the amount of people I see on the road that are starting at their phones, not using hands-free and generally act like they own the road is god damn high. I’m kind of ok with this kind of bullying from technology.
