I’ve worked 2nd (afternoon), swing (evening), and 3rd (overnight) shifts for the majority of my life. I recently moved into a training position where I’m Monday through Friday, 8am to ~5:30pm (I get OT while I’m cleaning up and writing reports).
As much as the 2nd/swing/3rd shifts screw with your life in other ways, the difficulty in scheduling any kind of life services outside of working hours is maddening. Doctor’s appointment? Nope. DMV? Maybe Saturday, if you’re lucky. Chaperone your kids field trip? Hahahhah no.
I don’t want to burn sick time for a doctor’s appointment (I need to save those for when my kid is actually sick), and I sure as hell don’t want to use up a “vacation” day for it. How tf are you supposed to get anything done?


8-5?
You work 9 hrs?
That is the standard workday in the US. 8 AM to 5 PM with a one-hour unpaid lunch at noon because they want to get eight hours of work out of you. It used to be 9-5 with a paid lunch but that got gutted decades ago.
I didn’t realize it was gutted. We’re 7.5 here with 2 15 minute breaks.
Unpaid 1hr lunchbreak. Pretty common today to work 8-5 in a 4:4
Yea, cool.
Does “in a 4:4” mean 4 days on, 4 days off? That’s only about 16 workdays a month.
4 hours paid work, 1hr unpaid lunch, four hours paid work, home. Paid for 8hr, but on site for 9hr.
Oh yeah, that’s been a common pattern for years and years. I think “9 to 5” refers more to higher-ranking people who get a paid lunch hour out of their 8 as a perk.
Lots of people have 8 hrs paid work time + an actual lunch hour. In my experience 8.5 total is more common.
Lol
You have to physically get to work don’t you?
No
Not everyone gets to only work 8, lol
Should they
I mean it should be their choice to work more or not. So yes and no.
It’s not their choice if they’re then coming here to complain they don’t have time for their own life.
Obviously the fuck not lol. Are you trying to build of a strawman about my views to make yourself feel better?
How so
Bruv you mind stop asking leading questions that you know the answers to?
I’m asking because I don’t know the answer. That’s the point of asking you to explain so I can actually answer you.