I’ve worked 2nd (afternoon), swing (evening), and 3rd (overnight) shifts for the majority of my life. I recently moved into a training position where I’m Monday through Friday, 8am to ~5:30pm (I get OT while I’m cleaning up and writing reports).
As much as the 2nd/swing/3rd shifts screw with your life in other ways, the difficulty in scheduling any kind of life services outside of working hours is maddening. Doctor’s appointment? Nope. DMV? Maybe Saturday, if you’re lucky. Chaperone your kids field trip? Hahahhah no.
I don’t want to burn sick time for a doctor’s appointment (I need to save those for when my kid is actually sick), and I sure as hell don’t want to use up a “vacation” day for it. How tf are you supposed to get anything done?


Not everyone gets to only work 8, lol
Should they
Shouldn’t people have a life outside work? The system is coercive enough as it is, and certainly not to our benefit. Basically, ALL your living time is occupied, preventing you from living a simple life.
I mean it should be their choice to work more or not. So yes and no.
It’s not their choice if they’re then coming here to complain they don’t have time for their own life.
Obviously the fuck not lol. Are you trying to build of a strawman about my views to make yourself feel better?
How so
Bruv you mind stop asking leading questions that you know the answers to?
I’m asking because I don’t know the answer. That’s the point of asking you to explain so I can actually answer you.
Your first comment, “should they”, is a blatant leading question, and in my opinion, easily takeable as accusatory.