Don’t sing the buses any praises yet. The dark incentive to carry more people means the seats are quite rigid, vertical, bad quality and narrow in both directions. All in the name of transporting people like cattle (and for pretty much the same purpose). I can’t sit in my city’s new buses because my legs literally don’t fit on the seat to the knees before hitting the next seat, even if I manspread. Have been asking around if other people are having this issue because I intend to file a legal case.
You’re one of the few gangly ass tall guys with this issue, millions of people use busses without such issues, by this same logic you must think planes are a terrible form of travel as well, cause you can’t fit in those seats with cramped leg room
Probably I would but I can’t realistically pay for a plane ticket in this economy lol.
Oh well I’ll never know.
But I did fit in older buses without issues, which means the buses are being shrinkflationed for capitalism. (I can’t have grown 8 cm in one year yet kept using the same clothes, can I?)
Yeah that part might be true, although I don’t think they’ve made it as bad as plane seats yet, and there’s usual a few seats with nothing in front of them, like the ones for disabled people or the ones that are parallel to the bus walls
It sounds like your transit system has the good problem of needing to accommodate more passengers. Why not ask your local authorities (transit authority, city council, etc) to look into upgrading these busier routes to trams or even heavy rail? That way they could add A LOT more capacity without having to make the experience so uncomfortable, and they’d save money in the long run.
Thanks. Fortunately, there is actually a (one) light rail project under study, it just happens to not cover my general area. Hopefully if it goes ahead and works, it’d mean there’ll be more. But it has my support in the meantime!
I wanna take this chance to really encourage you to get out there and let people know you want to see this project and want to see more like it. In general, the majority of people who show up to these meetings are the NIMBYs who simply ask that everybody drive an $80,000 tank and run over anyone on a bicycle. We could really use your voice.
I’ll see what I can do. Things like mass transportation should be relevant in this area with a noticeable population and construction growth, but there’s an underlying facet that most of the “room” that was at some time in the past thought of for setting up two train lines, was already used to construct bikeways because the train projects were taking too long to even get past proposal stage. In our situation people want to see things that can be done fast, and historically here train is not one of them.
I’m 187cm (like 6’2 or something) and I have this issue. Anything that’s not a 4 seater on buses or regional trains will lead to my knees pressing into the seat in front if I don’t sit perfectly upright (which isn’t a great option for a 90+ minute train ride). Some bus seats have so little leg space that I flat out cannot fit without sitting diagonally (they’re actually worse than the last cheap airline I flew with somehow, tho tbf that was like 8 years ago and might be worse now).
When these buses come once every 15 minutes at peak time, it’s not even really a capacity issue, frequency could absolutely be higher if desired. Though 4 seaters existing means it’s generally fine, and my bus rides generally aren’t long enough that I can’t just stand instead. Designing a bus with that little leg room without 4 seaters would be a real issue though. Accomodating everyone and efficiency for the average person will always be a balance to strike, but everyone for whom it’s feasibly possible should at least have some option to be comfortable on public transport.
I take the bus home after a long day of work. Among the last things I want is stand; if I wanted to, I’d actually demand it be treated as paid overtime. Fuck terminal capitalism.
And yes I meant manspreading. I had to edit when I realized some 5 minutes after the fact.
Don’t sing the buses any praises yet. The dark incentive to carry more people means the seats are quite rigid, vertical, bad quality and narrow in both directions. All in the name of transporting people like cattle (and for pretty much the same purpose). I can’t sit in my city’s new buses because my legs literally don’t fit on the seat to the knees before hitting the next seat, even if I manspread. Have been asking around if other people are having this issue because I intend to file a legal case.
You’re one of the few gangly ass tall guys with this issue, millions of people use busses without such issues, by this same logic you must think planes are a terrible form of travel as well, cause you can’t fit in those seats with cramped leg room
Probably I would but I can’t realistically pay for a plane ticket in this economy lol.
Oh well I’ll never know.
But I did fit in older buses without issues, which means the buses are being shrinkflationed for capitalism. (I can’t have grown 8 cm in one year yet kept using the same clothes, can I?)
Yeah, those evil vehicles of capitalism, checks notes buses…
I’d say “you gotta move the workforce efficiently” but… well, if that was the case the world would be trains.
Yeah that part might be true, although I don’t think they’ve made it as bad as plane seats yet, and there’s usual a few seats with nothing in front of them, like the ones for disabled people or the ones that are parallel to the bus walls
Yeah from what I hear now that I’m asking around, we’re not even close XD.
It sounds like your transit system has the good problem of needing to accommodate more passengers. Why not ask your local authorities (transit authority, city council, etc) to look into upgrading these busier routes to trams or even heavy rail? That way they could add A LOT more capacity without having to make the experience so uncomfortable, and they’d save money in the long run.
Thanks. Fortunately, there is actually a (one) light rail project under study, it just happens to not cover my general area. Hopefully if it goes ahead and works, it’d mean there’ll be more. But it has my support in the meantime!
I wanna take this chance to really encourage you to get out there and let people know you want to see this project and want to see more like it. In general, the majority of people who show up to these meetings are the NIMBYs who simply ask that everybody drive an $80,000 tank and run over anyone on a bicycle. We could really use your voice.
I’ll see what I can do. Things like mass transportation should be relevant in this area with a noticeable population and construction growth, but there’s an underlying facet that most of the “room” that was at some time in the past thought of for setting up two train lines, was already used to construct bikeways because the train projects were taking too long to even get past proposal stage. In our situation people want to see things that can be done fast, and historically here train is not one of them.
I think you mean man spreading.
Also you could just stand you 7 foot tall behemoth
I’m 187cm (like 6’2 or something) and I have this issue. Anything that’s not a 4 seater on buses or regional trains will lead to my knees pressing into the seat in front if I don’t sit perfectly upright (which isn’t a great option for a 90+ minute train ride). Some bus seats have so little leg space that I flat out cannot fit without sitting diagonally (they’re actually worse than the last cheap airline I flew with somehow, tho tbf that was like 8 years ago and might be worse now).
When these buses come once every 15 minutes at peak time, it’s not even really a capacity issue, frequency could absolutely be higher if desired. Though 4 seaters existing means it’s generally fine, and my bus rides generally aren’t long enough that I can’t just stand instead. Designing a bus with that little leg room without 4 seaters would be a real issue though. Accomodating everyone and efficiency for the average person will always be a balance to strike, but everyone for whom it’s feasibly possible should at least have some option to be comfortable on public transport.
I fucking hate being tall.
6’ 1 3/4" and occasionally face (knee?) same issue.
In my opinion manspreading is voluntary inconsiderate behavior, not manspreading if forced by infrastructure.
I take the bus home after a long day of work. Among the last things I want is stand; if I wanted to, I’d actually demand it be treated as paid overtime. Fuck terminal capitalism.
And yes I meant manspreading. I had to edit when I realized some 5 minutes after the fact.