TLDR: Tesla will have as many robotaxis as Waymo in the year 2111, if the current growth rate holds (and if Waymo doesn’t add a single additional vehicle). So… I’m guessing the Tesla stock price will skyrocket.
Here’s the problem for Tesla: their “full self driving” doesn’t fucking work. I had it for years (first run model 3) and it was always 1 step forward, 1 back. Make one thing better, another gets worse. This was still the case when I dumped my 3 after The Salute. I never got what I paid for.
They’re clearly still in the same predicament, so instead they have “supervisors” remote-controlling the cars. Musk simply refuses to acknowledge this fact and keeps promising it indefinitely. And people keep believing it.
And people keep believing it.
At this point I’m not sure anyone believes it. I think everyone is just hoping there will still be enough suckers down the road to make some money before it collapses.
You got exactly what you paid for. You paid to be a beta tester.
Wrong. I was sold full self driving and the date was promised. And then promised. And then promised. “By the end of the year”, “before thanksgiving “, and on and on. Full self driving.
They definitely always said it was a beta program. You fell for the con. I get that you’re upset, but got got what they sold to you.
It’s called Full Self Driving. You’re forgetting history here. Don’t smugly blame me for being a mark when it literally said on their site that the car will be able to drive me door to door, park itself, and come get me later. Beta or not, this was the actual promise. They made very specific claims with concrete dates. They lied. I didn’t get what they sold me. Yes, it was a con, but that literally means I didn’t get what they sold me.
Yes, they tricked you by giving it that name. But they gave all kinds of fine print saying it was a beta program you were buying into.
A beta program means the features exist and you agree to help report issues. They lied about what would even be in the beta program.
Yeah I remember pre 2010 a lot of talk about self driving cars like they are 5 years away.
Is it called ‘unsuperwised’ if the staff is from India? (Or does it have to be from the Philippines?)
/s
It uses AI! Actual Indians!
No, no, the AI calls APIs.
That is to say, A.ctual P.eople in I.ndia
Catch up to what? Waymo is still losing money.
Just how big do people think the taxi market is?
It’s always interesting how these things are worded. Rather than say there’s X amount of them now active and information about it, it’s compared to a company that has little reason to invest in a market that most of the US doesn’t care about.
The city I live in has 400,000 people, so not like a huge city but not BFE. We have zero taxis automated, and no “human” taxis driving around. We have Uber and such still. Point being, there’s only like a dozen US cities that actually use taxis regularly and this might be realistically viable. Tesla just doesn’t care in general, the hyper loop failed massively already for them.
How big? Potentially huge if you can get people to abandon car ownership by having a super convenient offering. Owning/leasing/maintaining a car is already expensive. We seem to be running at a situation where lower priced new cars become the thing of the past.
I’ll bet they’ve caught up to waymo in lawsuits, at least
Given the comparative rate of growth, they’ll never catch up.




