• Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca
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    2 days ago

    Yeah, but remember, their taxes are so low that businesses can afford to pay their employees so much that most Anericans are actually incredibly wealthy. Just go out on the street and ask any American.

    …not that guy… not that guy either… or that guy… that guy doesn’t count… no not that guy either…

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      Yeah, but remember, their taxes are so low that businesses can afford to pay their employees so much that most Anericans are actually incredibly wealthy.

      That’s the theory for “trickle down” economics, but in reality it’s piss trickling down.

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      What about raising the tax so that increased pay for the employees increases the amount of deductibles for the company which in turn reduces the actual tax they have to pay?
      Has that ever been tried before?
      Maybe some decades ago?
      …before Reagan?

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          18 hours ago

          Nah, I’d rather explain it to a brick wall, which is less stubborn and won’t shoot me, because I challenge some beliefs.

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          They want the power to do whatever they will while enjoying the protections of the publicly funded state against anyone who might try to stop them.

          And for the most part they get it. But their power isn’t total yet. We still have a window of possibility.

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      Unironic all my friends with their washed brains argument in favor of united states…

      “but they got even more money than us working on mcdonalds duh”

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          Brazil, mostra of people have be exposed to u.s. propaganda since the childhood, I myself was a bit like that until i start the law school.

          Academic knowledge and meeting a lot of people from out of my circles really expanded my horizons and my POVs on the world, i’m really greatful for this

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            Thank you for sharing. Always disappointing to see how we’ve managed to not only make our country worse, but somehow persuade other people into wanting to make their countries worse.

            Our economic policy is ruining us and I hope all other countries can at least learn from our bad example. You don’t want what we have, I promise.

            Good luck in law school or as a lawyer. The world needs more good people in law and politics.

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              20 hours ago

              Nah bro, thanks, but i graduated on Law School six years ago, never worked on the area, them i proceed to study IT, now i work as agriculture technician…

              Yeah, my life makes zero sense, i still try to fight the good fight tho

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              1 day ago

              The US propaganda reaches far

              I know people in Australia and New Zealand who think America is great, because they think they’d be allowed to shoot people whenever they feel like it, and they’re inevitably racist as fuck

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      I mean, you’re kind of arguing how great the USA is. You put it on a pedestal as a beacon of perfection. Yeah it doesn’t have free healthcare, you’re absolutely right, I’m not sure what you’re point is? There are a lot of things wrong with the USA, it’s a huge country with quite a bit more diversity then other first world countries.

      Point being, why do you hold the USA to such high standards? If you think most Americans feel the US is “the best” you’re sorley mistaken.

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        You’re not sure what my point is? My point is that for most Americans they pay more and get less.

        30% of American workers earn less than $12 and hour. Compare that to only 9% of Canadians working their minimum wage of ~$12.60 USD.

        So a third of Americans are earning less than the absolute minimum earnings of a Canadian, and from that they are paying a comparable federal tax rate, but have to pay for health insurance and out of pocket copay to even see a doctor.

        That’s just the people up to the threshold of the minimum Canadians make. Nearly half of US workers earn less than $15/ hour, so not much more. Less than 20% of Canadians make that little.

        Most Americans are paid less, pay the same taxes, get no healthcare in return, but have to pay for private insurance AND still have to pay out of pocket for any medical visit.